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Created by Aussiex > 9 months ago, 31 Dec 2011
Aussiex
QLD, 261 posts
31 Dec 2011 8:26AM
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Hey,
i weight about 60kg, what is the smallest board (Litres) i can uphaul on?
Because the smaller board size you go the cheaper you can get them. Would say a 100L board be ok given that it is wide enough

jh2703
NSW, 1225 posts
31 Dec 2011 9:43AM
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It's about technique on smaller boards, you need to be much quicker and be carefull where you put your feet. I'm 95kgs and can uphaul my 95L if I need but I'll be knee deep in water before I get the sail up. You should be ok to uphaul on a 100L board at your weight, when I started out I'd always have a board in my kit that was too small for my skill level but I think I helped me progress much quicker. I'd go out first on my small board and splash around for an hour then I'd switch back to my bigger kit and everything would be sooo much easier.

Keep it up your doin great, just wait for the day your in the straps & harness and fully lit....you'll never forget that first blast.

Cheers.

RumChaser
TAS, 633 posts
31 Dec 2011 10:38AM
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I'm 75 kilo and up-haul on a 90 litre board with a 6m sail. I would of thought a 100 litre board would be fine.

CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
31 Dec 2011 11:20AM
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Aussiex said...

Hey,
i weight about 60kg, what is the smallest board (Litres) i can uphaul on?
Because the smaller board size you go the cheaper you can get them. Would say a 100L board be ok given that it is wide enough


Do you own a board yet Aussie? Personally I think you HAVE to own a 100L (approx) freestyle board and should be doing everything in you power to get one. Forget slalom boards, forget freestyle wave boards, forget cruisers, get a freestyle board. Period! There is not a board out there that is more versatile than a 100L FS board or a quicker progression tool once you have the basics down. They are fast, light, plane early, stable, just straight up boss. Ask Ben he'll agree with me And yes you'll be able to uphaul on one super easy.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8354 posts
31 Dec 2011 11:28AM
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I weigh about 63kgs and can't uphaul my 95ltre in chop although I haven't practised much as I can waterstart so if you are persistent I suppose you could.I would think I could uphaul a 110 ok and maybe a 105? Although I haven't tried.

Mistral Nick
QLD, 370 posts
31 Dec 2011 11:43AM
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I weigh 87kg can uphaul 110l no problem but my 98l is a different matter, much easier to waterstart, easier in every respect, uphauling can really take it out of you.

djdojo
VIC, 1614 posts
31 Dec 2011 2:02PM
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One of my favourite articles when i was a grom was "Uphauling a Sinker" by Tom James in an American mag, maybe "Windsurf"? It was funny, informative, and motivated me to learn to uphaul small boards.

When I weighed 85kg my smallest slalom board was about 60l and I could uphaul it no worries. If the sail was in an OK position and I was quick I could do it with the board barely sinking, but if I was slow it was still possible. Sure, my butt and the bottom few feet of the mast and sail were in the water as the mast approached upright, but if you get used to balancing against the sail as it sloshes around half underwater it is not that hard. (I never had an uphaul on racing rigs; I pulled the rig up by the mast, which is easier on boards that sink as you do it.)

Get the right board for your skill level and conditions, that will support the skill development that will later allow you to ride any board well.

cammd
QLD, 4495 posts
31 Dec 2011 1:26PM
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Get a board that gets you on the water the most. Just cause its possible to uphaul a small board doesn't mean dogging around on one in marginal conditions is fun. A larger board will be easier to uphaul and sail . it will perform better in lighter winds and plane earlier which means you will spend more time sailing and that is the single best way to progress.

joe windsurf
1482 posts
31 Dec 2011 11:51AM
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some say kg + 30 + 20 to 30 extra
60 + 30 + 20 = 110 to 120 litres for good flotation
http://www.gis.net/%7Emonomoy/bdchoice9.html
says about 110 liters for 130 pound/60 kg person
this is for a good floater
as everyone here has said - yes, you can uphaul 100 liters
100 is NOT that far from 110
how good is your balance ??
are you a fit 60 kg person or heavy kid ??
ideally try one before you buy
perhaps you can rent one down under ??

i weigh 100 kilos/220 pounds and have sailed from 124 to 220 liter boards
and can uphaul on all of em
the 124 requires special technique for me and would be VERY floaty for you

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8354 posts
31 Dec 2011 3:35PM
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cammd said...

Get a board that gets you on the water the most. Just cause its possible to uphaul a small board doesn't mean dogging around on one in marginal conditions is fun. A larger board will be easier to uphaul and sail . it will perform better in lighter winds and plane earlier which means you will spend more time sailing and that is the single best way to progress.


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Windxtasy
WA, 4019 posts
31 Dec 2011 1:32PM
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I am around 60 kg. I can just uphaul my 85L board if it's not choppy, but I am an experienced sailor (if not expert). I find my 110 L board much easier to uphaul and a 120 I tried recently was so stable it was like a tabletop.
For an ambitious beginner I'd recommend a 110 - 120L. As you progress you can keep it as your light wind board. My 110 has had 4X the use of my 85 this season!

CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
31 Dec 2011 6:17PM
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Different tack: What do you want out of windsurfing? It seems you are young, keen and a quick learner with very good sailors around to help you progress fast. With that in mind I would make the strongest recommendation possible to steer clear of anything like a 110-120L free-ride or cruising board because you will out grow it super fast and you will be bored as ****. This is unless you are happy to cruise back and forth for the next 5 years just working on gybes...sounds boring right...it is.

If as I imagine you want progress your windsurfing to the widest range of possibilities; proper board/rig control, waves, freestyle, general bawse spec then as I stated before get a 100L (ish) freestyle board, you will NEVER out grow it. Most people dismiss them because they have never tried them but mark my words, this is THE board you want if you want to progress your windsurfing as fast as you possibly can and have nothing board wise holding you back. The only thing is they are harder to find, heaps of freestyle waves, not that many freestyle boards. TBH i'd ignore any FSW boards, they are a compromise, never ridden one that i've though, **** yeah.

Maybe a touch big for your weight (but ok), something like this

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Boards/~bu7ci/2009-JP-Australia-Freestyle-Pro-107-230-cm-108-litres.aspx?search=8x7uhC3xupLfSeSIUroV8hgQM09lGfgE

Aussiex
QLD, 261 posts
31 Dec 2011 6:14PM
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I'm 16 and not heavy, im fairly fit but not a fit as i should be. And my balance isn't bad.

joe windsurf said...

some say kg + 30 + 20 to 30 extra
60 + 30 + 20 = 110 to 120 litres for good flotation
http://www.gis.net/%7Emonomoy/bdchoice9.html
says about 110 liters for 130 pound/60 kg person
this is for a good floater
as everyone here has said - yes, you can uphaul 100 liters
100 is NOT that far from 110
how good is your balance ??
are you a fit 60 kg person or heavy kid ??
ideally try one before you buy
perhaps you can rent one down under ??

i weigh 100 kilos/220 pounds and have sailed from 124 to 220 liter boards
and can uphaul on all of em
the 124 requires special technique for me and would be VERY floaty for you


barn
WA, 2960 posts
31 Dec 2011 4:40PM
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Yep get a 100 freestyle if you can, won't be a problem uphauling.. You're 16 and your probably not a spazz, so you don't need to take the same learning route as hoi polloi..

Problem is 100 freestyles are rare in Aus, if this was Euroland there would be piles of them on every corner, cause every body has a 100 freestyle in their quiver, except Australians, we're the ones who are backwards..

These guys are all using a board you could uphaul on, and they use the same board for 35 knots in Egypt to 14knots on Lake Estonia..



The guy at the link that CJW posted also has an F2 comp style 96, man that board was the ducks guts.. And he only wants $80 for it, offer him $40 'kids rates'..


The first 'Spock Tail'

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Boards/~bu7ci/2009-JP-Australia-Freestyle-Pro-107-230-cm-108-litres.aspx?search=8x7uhC3xupLfSeSIUroV8hgQM09lGfgE

Aussiex
QLD, 261 posts
31 Dec 2011 8:22PM
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Thanks barn,
I sent a text and an email to this guy but he hasn't replied yet.
Can everyone just keep an eye out.i don't have to much money but i'm really keen to get my own board but don't want to get the wrong one.

Aussiex
QLD, 261 posts
1 Jan 2012 9:18AM
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CJW said...

Different tack: What do you want out of windsurfing? It seems you are young, keen and a quick learner with very good sailors around to help you progress fast. With that in mind I would make the strongest recommendation possible to steer clear of anything like a 110-120L free-ride or cruising board because you will out grow it super fast and you will be bored as ****. This is unless you are happy to cruise back and forth for the next 5 years just working on gybes...sounds boring right...it is.

If as I imagine you want progress your windsurfing to the widest range of possibilities; proper board/rig control, waves, freestyle, general bawse spec then as I stated before get a 100L (ish) freestyle board, you will NEVER out grow it. Most people dismiss them because they have never tried them but mark my words, this is THE board you want if you want to progress your windsurfing as fast as you possibly can and have nothing board wise holding you back. The only thing is they are harder to find, heaps of freestyle waves, not that many freestyle boards. TBH i'd ignore any FSW boards, they are a compromise, never ridden one that i've though, **** yeah.

Maybe a touch big for your weight (but ok), something like this

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Boards/~bu7ci/2009-JP-Australia-Freestyle-Pro-107-230-cm-108-litres.aspx?search=8x7uhC3xupLfSeSIUroV8hgQM09lGfgE


I know you said to avoid freestyle wave boards, but i just can't wait for a freestyle board to come along in my price range. I would rather compromise and get a freestyle wave. I will wait to see if the guy with the $80 board messages back first. But then i might just buy a board and get on the water.



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