Select to expand quotephiln said..Gestalt said..
You know what this means... review incoming 
Nope, it means guaranteed no wind. :-(
Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..Gestalt said..
How many battens?
3.5, the same as the Gen 2
Cool thx. Do you know what's different.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..John340 said..Gestalt said..
How many battens?
3.5, the same as the Gen 2
Cool thx. Do you know what's different.
Only what I can see in the photo. A slightly larger window and colour change. I also suspect a change in reinforcement layup.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..
Lucas meldrums new vid looks promising.. could be the new board sponsor though.
Very interesting podcast with more details on the plan with 3Di and the traditional race sails North is using this season.
Well, I've jumped off the deep end and placed an order for 5.2, 6.0 & 6.8 3Di Gen 3 Race sails. ETA in about 6 weeks (coming by slow mail from The Netherlands). I own a quiver and love the 3Di Gen 2 Wave Sails and can wait to try the Race sails.
Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..
Well, I've jumped off the deep end and placed an order for 5.2, 6.0 & 6.8 3Di Gen 3 Race sails. ETA in about 6 weeks (coming by slow mail from The Netherlands). I own a quiver and love the 3Di Gen 2 Wave Sails and can wait to try the Race sails.
Sick!!
Select to expand quotesheddweller said..
5 years isn't long enough to develop a race sail? PMSL! ??
Its not like they have started from scratch and are new to the sport, the team bring years of experience and the 3di technology has been developed over the past 30 years. The guys from Phantom are also on board and have great past results, they may not nail it in the first year but I reckon they will get it together really quickly.
Select to expand quotesheddweller said..
5 years isn't long enough to develop a race sail? PMSL! ??
I think this is a function of the 3d production process as opposed to the traditional sail loft approach. Vincent mentioned something like a 6-month turnaround time for a proto; even if exaggerated a bit, that is clearly of a totally different order of magnitude than what small lofts like... Loft (in Tarifa), P7 (Garda) or Duotone (Maui) can do: build, test, adjust, retest... easily within 24h or less.
Select to expand quotebel29 said..sheddweller said..
5 years isn't long enough to develop a race sail? PMSL! ??
I think this is a function of the 3d production process as opposed to the traditional sail loft approach. Vincent mentioned something like a 6-month turnaround time for a proto; even if exaggerated a bit, that is clearly of a totally different order of magnitude than what small lofts like... Loft (in Tarifa), P7 (Garda) or Duotone (Maui) can do: build, test, adjust, retest... easily within 24h or less.
Yup. That is exactly the point why the time lines are longer. Can't see that working long term.
ben severne can build a sail and be on the water the next day testing.
also let's not forget the non pwa market is loving the 3di sails. It cannot be denied there is something there. Plus , talk that any mast can be used.. that in itself is significant.
Select to expand quotealso let's not forget the non pwa market is loving the 3di sails. It cannot be denied there is something there. Plus , talk that any mast can be used.. that in itself is significant.
Apparently Goya is the perfect fit.
Select to expand quotephiln said..also let's not forget the non pwa market is loving the 3di sails. It cannot be denied there is something there. Plus , talk that any mast can be used.. that in itself is significant.
Apparently Goya is the perfect fit.
Also know people using np masts happily. I think John above is using different masts. Maybe john you can chime in??
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..philn said..also let's not forget the non pwa market is loving the 3di sails. It cannot be denied there is something there. Plus , talk that any mast can be used.. that in itself is significant.
Apparently Goya is the perfect fit.
Also know people using np masts happily. I think John above is using different masts. Maybe john you can chime in??
I want to use my power xt extensions so I'm going to try my Duotone & KA SDM & RDM masts to see if they work. If not, then I'll get the north 430 MDM which fits both the 6.0 and 6.8.
Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..
I want to use my power xt extensions so I'm going to try my Duotone & KA SDM & RDM masts to see if they work. If not, then I'll get the north 430 MDM which fits both the 6.0 and 6.8.
don't know about KA masts, but i've tried Duotone Platinum RDMs with moderate success on the FreeSpeeds.
the power XT may be a bit tricky… one local bloke has figured out a way to make them work by threading the extension in reverse
MDMs (ultimate or local pro) work best on the aircam sails. MDM or local pro RDM work well on FreeSpeeds.
Select to expand quotephiln said..
Apparently Goya is the perfect fit.Select to expand quoteGestalt said..
Also know people using np masts happily. I think John above is using different masts. Maybe john you can chime in??
Goya is a reasonable fit in 400 and below.
NP does well at 430 and under.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..
…Plus , talk that any mast can be used.. that in itself is significant.
the greater mast tolerance refers to future product…
from what i understand, fibre layout/load paths in the sail body will do some of the work of the mast, thus making the sail a little bit more mast-agnostic.
Gen3 wave may already have this concept applied.
Select to expand quotebel29 said..
I think this is a function of the 3d production process as opposed to the traditional sail loft approach. Vincent mentioned something like a 6-month turnaround time for a proto; even if exaggerated a bit, that is clearly of a totally different order of magnitude than what small lofts like... Loft (in Tarifa), P7 (Garda) or Duotone (Maui) can do: build, test, adjust, retest... easily within 24h or less.
a good amount of that is taken up by the curing process.
after a sail is "printed" on the mould, that sail body needs to undergo a lengthy cure time (several weeks), then that sail body needs to go thru another factory process for all the fittings to be installed/ stitched on (batten tensioners, pulley blocks, fairings, luff sleeve, windows, etc.). add another factory process trip if you also want graphics printed.
so yeah, different pace for development/ testing.
Quick update for those following my gear setup. I just pulled the trigger on the new North Wave Gen 3 in 4.7[/b]❤️❤️❤️❤️
I haven’t had it on the water yet It’s incredibly light, and the design of the new luff sleeve (mast pocket) is really innovative.
Right now, it’s currently the main piece of 'art' in my bedroom. I like to keep it in sight so it’s the first thing I see when I wake up it's the best way to start the day 😂😂😂
I’ll let you know how it performs as soon as I get it wet! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Select to expand quoteManawa said..
Quick update for those following my gear setup. I just pulled the trigger on the new North Wave Gen 3 in 4.7[/b]❤️❤️❤️❤️
I haven’t had it on the water yet It’s incredibly light, and the design of the new luff sleeve (mast pocket) is really innovative.
Right now, it’s currently the main piece of 'art' in my bedroom. I like to keep it in sight so it’s the first thing I see when I wake up it's the best way to start the day 😂😂😂
I’ll let you know how it performs as soon as I get it wet! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
What are the physical changes compared to the Gen 2?
Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..Manawa said..
Quick update for those following my gear setup. I just pulled the trigger on the new North Wave Gen 3 in 4.7[/b]❤️❤️❤️❤️
I haven’t had it on the water yet It’s incredibly light, and the design of the new luff sleeve (mast pocket) is really innovative.
Right now, it’s currently the main piece of 'art' in my bedroom. I like to keep it in sight so it’s the first thing I see when I wake up it's the best way to start the day 😂😂😂
I’ll let you know how it performs as soon as I get it wet! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
What are the physical changes compared to the Gen 2?Select to expand quoteWeight reduction, reduced the swing weight,[/b] the Gen3’s refined seam and batten pocket construction and the luff sleeve is different, looks more consistent like Gen1 but not the same. Probably is designed to offer smoother rotation, is engineered to better handle the high downhaul loads required for modern wave sailing. (That's my two cents, anyway...).
Select to expand quoteManawa said..John340 said..Manawa said..
Quick update for those following my gear setup. I just pulled the trigger on the new North Wave Gen 3 in 4.7[/b]❤️❤️❤️❤️
I haven’t had it on the water yet It’s incredibly light, and the design of the new luff sleeve (mast pocket) is really innovative.
Right now, it’s currently the main piece of 'art' in my bedroom. I like to keep it in sight so it’s the first thing I see when I wake up it's the best way to start the day 😂😂😂
I’ll let you know how it performs as soon as I get it wet! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
What are the physical changes compared to the Gen 2?Weight reduction, reduced the swing weight,[/b] the Gen3’s refined seam and batten pocket construction and the luff sleeve is different, looks more consistent like Gen1 but not the same. Probably is designed to offer smoother rotation, is engineered to better handle the high downhaul loads required for modern wave sailing. (That's my two cents, anyway...).
What do you rig the 4.7 on 370 or 400 been thinking about a gen 3 but still some gen 2 ava. for a discount.
Select to expand quoteKDog said..Manawa said..John340 said..Manawa said..
Quick update for those following my gear setup. I just pulled the trigger on the new North Wave Gen 3 in 4.7[/b]❤️❤️❤️❤️
I haven’t had it on the water yet It’s incredibly light, and the design of the new luff sleeve (mast pocket) is really innovative.
Right now, it’s currently the main piece of 'art' in my bedroom. I like to keep it in sight so it’s the first thing I see when I wake up it's the best way to start the day 😂😂😂
I’ll let you know how it performs as soon as I get it wet! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
What are the physical changes compared to the Gen 2?Weight reduction, reduced the swing weight,[/b] the Gen3’s refined seam and batten pocket construction and the luff sleeve is different, looks more consistent like Gen1 but not the same. Probably is designed to offer smoother rotation, is engineered to better handle the high downhaul loads required for modern wave sailing. (That's my two cents, anyway...).
What do you rig the 4.7 on 370 or 400 been thinking about a gen 3 but still some gen 2 ava. for a discount.
I'm rigging it with a 370 mast, though I haven’t had the chance to test it on the water yet.
Last weekend I was out with my 5.2, but the wind was actually spot-on for a 4.7. The only problem was the beach it was way too crowded. I didn't want to risk any trouble with the swimmers, so I decided against heading back to the beach to swap sails. At least, that’s my take on it.
With my old 4.7, I almost always used the 370, but it wasn't bad with a 400 either. It felt stiffer and more powerful, but very stable.
I finally got the chance to test the sail. Here are my first impressions from last Saturday in medium-to-light wind conditions, ranging from 20 to 25 knots.
I rigged it on its 370 mast. It technically calls for a 30 cm extension, but I actually used 29 cm as indicated on the sail, which worked perfectly. Once on the water, the sail feels incredibly light in the hands. The center of effort is slightly forward, though less so than on the Gen1 or Gen2. Stability in gusts is even better, and the jibing maneuverability is exceptional—an improvement over the previous versions. The top-end speed is top-notch.
Overall, my first impression is that it feels even lighter in the hands, with a bit less drive in the front section and a slightly lower center of effort. I couldn't test it as thoroughly as I would have liked due to unfavorable weather, but I hope to take it out again soon in tougher conditions, ideally with more wind and waves or at least some heavy chop.
I was using it on my Starboard Kode 85 freestyle wave at Lake Garda, specifically at the famous Pier spot. As for proper wave conditions, we’ll have to wait—it’s already summer and it’s getting pretty hot here!
