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Anyone riding an Avanti Inc 3 commuter bicycle?

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Created by GPA > 9 months ago, 20 Jan 2013
GPA
WA, 2529 posts
20 Jan 2013 7:57PM
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Having changed jobs I now have the opportunity to ride - and I like the look of these... Belt drive (no oily chain) and internal 11 spd hub, with hydraulic disc brakes... and the matt black looks nice!

avantibikes.com/nz/bikes/kids-bikes/

Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:32PM
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Looks like some sort of stealth bike.

deejay8204
QLD, 557 posts
21 Jan 2013 1:33PM
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looks good, missing the shocks, they make for a far more comfortable ride.

poor relative
WA, 9106 posts
21 Jan 2013 11:56AM
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Bike exchange say they cost $1,699.95

For less than 1/2 of that you could get a really nice commuter/hybrid that would probably be as comfortable and easily maintained.

Have a look at

Specialised cross trail $849



Giant Roam $1299


Scott sportstar $900


Personally i'd go the specialised very good value

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
21 Jan 2013 3:33PM
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Orbeau - Carpe H30 $900



Personally I ride a dusty old clunker the 7km to work. Keeps me fitter than the above, that I still really want. I don't get a lot of the lycra clad cyclists. I see them riding in packs, talking. If you're holding a casual discussion you're not actually exercising. You're kidding yourself.

The biggest factor in a bicycle is probably its engine.




Not sure how much the internal hub weighs on the Avanti of this post. Could be a factor, or not.

d1
WA, 304 posts
21 Jan 2013 12:47PM
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How about Trek Soho Deluxe for $1400? Also belt-drive, also Alfine internal hub. Has mudguards.

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I like the internal hubs, especially the reliability and no maintenance aspects. Took me a few days to get used to switching gears under no load though (the exact opposite of derailleur).

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
21 Jan 2013 4:00PM
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Man, there are so many models it's bewildering.

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
21 Jan 2013 1:22PM
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Yeah - I know, there's almost too many nice bikes to choose from...

I don't really need a new bike, I'd just like one!

I recently put some Mavic Crosstrails on my 2006 Avanti Barracuda Disc (hydraulic) mtb and it made a noticeable difference to ride performance, and with a decent set of road tyres it's a good-enough commuter.

I'll keep an eye out for sales towards mid year when the new season's ranges comes out.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3141 posts
22 Jan 2013 12:33AM
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Personally I ride a dusty old clunker the 7km to work. Keeps me fitter than the above, that I still really want. I don't get a lot of the lycra clad cyclists. I see them riding in packs, talking. If you're holding a casual discussion you're not actually exercising. You're kidding yourself.

The biggest factor in a bicycle is probably its engine.






The whole point of a bicycle originally was to get around with less effort. Racing was an add on once they got slightly popular. Just like horses, cars trucks etc

Even in the TDF you'll see them chatting on the flat stages, right up until the final couple of Ks that determine the winner

sn
WA, 2775 posts
21 Jan 2013 9:56PM
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more my type (I know.....wishful thinking)

BenKirk
NSW, 600 posts
22 Jan 2013 9:35AM
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I was given this for Christmas by my awesome missus! It's under $400 and I'm using it as a training change from my usual 20 speed carbon roadie. The difference in workout is incredible, but I do the Manly > City ride in the same time.

Belt drive, internal hubs would be myh pick for top of the line commuter though. This bike will require a lot of TLC as the components will wear out quickly.

Did I say it glows in the dark for over an hour? First in the country


ellemenophee
SA, 68 posts
22 Jan 2013 9:34AM
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Mongoose sabrosa, commuter. Bought it for $999 new in black a few years ago.
Does the 45-50 km commute easily & comfortably. Complements the Giant Anthem i used to race. For what i paid i can not recommend it more highly, bugger all maintenance even did a Stage of the Tour Down under on it in. Baggy shorts as it isn't required to get all lycra covered. 1 rear cog & chain replaced in 3400ks.

Here is one :
http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/bicycles/mongoose/flat-bar-road/mongoose-sabrosa-3x9/bondi-junction/nsw/100346330

dave.h
WA, 194 posts
22 Jan 2013 7:14AM
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hilly said...
Selling this for $600 looks the same. Wax chain no oil




I've got one of these. Giant SEEK. Can't rate it highly enough. Most comfortable bike I've had to ride. Changed to this after a Giant road bike then a Avanti flat bar road/race bike(hated that) and the seek is great.
I believe they also have a model with the internal gear hub.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
22 Jan 2013 11:03AM
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BenKirk said...
I was given this for Christmas by my awesome missus! It's under $400 and I'm using it as a training change from my usual 20 speed carbon roadie. The difference in workout is incredible, but I do the Manly > City ride in the same time.

Belt drive, internal hubs would be myh pick for top of the line commuter though. This bike will require a lot of TLC as the components will wear out quickly.

Did I say it glows in the dark for over an hour? First in the country


How do you go with all the hills (it being a fixie)???


Mr Milk
NSW, 3141 posts
22 Jan 2013 11:07AM
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If you really want an exercise bike, how could you pass this one up

BenKirk
NSW, 600 posts
22 Jan 2013 4:48PM
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evlPanda said...
BenKirk said...
I was given this for Christmas by my awesome missus! It's under $400 and I'm using it as a training change from my usual 20 speed carbon roadie. The difference in workout is incredible, but I do the Manly > City ride in the same time.

Belt drive, internal hubs would be myh pick for top of the line commuter though. This bike will require a lot of TLC as the components will wear out quickly.

Did I say it glows in the dark for over an hour? First in the country


How do you go with all the hills (it being a fixie)???



I have it set up as a single speed not fixie so I can take a break heading downhill. The route I take is pretty tough: the hill out of Manly, the hill up from the spit then two hills on the way to kirribilli. I have to stand up on everything other than slight inclines which means I go faster up hills than usual, but slower on the flats (when my cadence is way too high!!).

It is an awesome test of stamina and strength rather than my usual uphill riding at 100-105 cadence.

Are you commuting?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
23 Jan 2013 3:39PM
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All the way from the mean streets of Woollahra to Randwick, through Centennial.
~7km and ~25 minutes. 20 minutes with today's wind.

Not quite the hills you have.
Military Rd. in peak hour must be... something.

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
23 Jan 2013 3:58PM
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BenKirk said...
evlPanda said...
BenKirk said...
I was given this for Christmas by my awesome missus! It's under $400 and I'm using it as a training change from my usual 20 speed carbon roadie. The difference in workout is incredible, but I do the Manly > City ride in the same time.

Belt drive, internal hubs would be myh pick for top of the line commuter though. This bike will require a lot of TLC as the components will wear out quickly.

Did I say it glows in the dark for over an hour? First in the country


How do you go with all the hills (it being a fixie)???



I have it set up as a single speed not fixie so I can take a break heading downhill. The route I take is pretty tough: the hill out of Manly, the hill up from the spit then two hills on the way to kirribilli. I have to stand up on everything other than slight inclines which means I go faster up hills than usual, but slower on the flats (when my cadence is way too high!!).

It is an awesome test of stamina and strength rather than my usual uphill riding at 100-105 cadence.

Are you commuting?

mate if you want a proper workout I can fix you up with an all steel mountain bike. you'll be rooted in no time. those good bikes you gotta ride too far to raise a sweat. i;'ll even throw in an old car tyre you can drag behind you for extra credit!

dmitri
VIC, 1040 posts
24 Jan 2013 10:36AM
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mate if you want a proper workout I can fix you up with an all steel mountain bike. you'll be rooted in no time. those good bikes you gotta ride too far to raise a sweat. i;'ll even throw in an old car tyre you can drag behind you for extra credit!



excellent point !
that's what my wife did.
i thought i was getting too fat and asked for a 20 speed carbon roadie for my 40th. but she bought me an all steel bmx instead.
i've been riding it for 7 years and love it. check it out

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
24 Jan 2013 11:00AM
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dmitri said...


mate if you want a proper workout I can fix you up with an all steel mountain bike. you'll be rooted in no time. those good bikes you gotta ride too far to raise a sweat. i;'ll even throw in an old car tyre you can drag behind you for extra credit!



excellent point !
that's what my wife did.
i thought i was getting too fat and asked for a 20 speed carbon roadie for my 40th. but she bought me an all steel bmx instead.
i've been riding it for 7 years and love it. check it out




sweet! Do you still shave your legs and wear lycra?
I swear some dudes just get into cycling as an excuse to shave their legs. I have known 50yo fat balding execs that shave their legs because they cycle.
These guys would be the first to turn bxtch if sent to prison.
Why oh Why do you possibly need to shave your legs???!!

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
24 Jan 2013 9:19AM
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^^^
My brother-in-law is a tri-athlete and iron man. He tells me that it is not for aerodynamics, but rather that when they stack, the resulting graze is 'smoother' and easier to clean... or so I am told.

Others on here must know

dmitri
VIC, 1040 posts
24 Jan 2013 1:21PM
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sweet! Do you still shave your legs and wear lycra?



no, fark that.
i even thought i could get away riding it without helmet. it's just a kids bike for god sake .wrong !
one day i was spotted from passing cops car rushing to somewhere with flashing lights on, but they turned around and pulled me over and gave me the fine.
i guess this is for a nanny state topic.

dorothyinste
QLD, 481 posts
24 Jan 2013 1:35PM
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Pitbull said...
Looks like some sort of stealth bike.


Apparently the matt black is to absorb radar scanning. It minimises the signal on a radar.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
24 Jan 2013 2:55PM
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myusernam said...
mate if you want a proper workout I can fix you up with an all steel mountain bike. you'll be rooted in no time. those good bikes you gotta ride too far to raise a sweat. i;'ll even throw in an old car tyre you can drag behind you for extra credit!


What colour is it? Might be interested if it matches my red, lycra outfit and baby smooth legs.

myusernam
QLD, 6160 posts
24 Jan 2013 10:14PM
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GPA said...
^^^
My brother-in-law is a tri-athlete and iron man. He tells me that it is not for aerodynamics, but rather that when they stack, the resulting graze is 'smoother' and easier to clean... or so I am told.

Others on here must know


yeah, that's the excuse I have been given as well.
Reckon I'd take a slightly bigger graze on the odd occasion that I stacked it rather than looking like a cross dresser.
I have two brother in laws (1 cycles) that both manscape their whole bodies anyway. Shave their forearms and everything. Seriosly WTF. Chicks don't even shave their forearms. They are great mates and probably only a stolly or two from butting eachother.

dranged
2 posts
4 Feb 2013 5:22PM
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I am riding one of these guys.

Had it.. 3 months. Verdict: Varied.

It's an AWESOME bike. Really, really fun to ride.. quiet, stealthy, just frigging awesome. It's in my mind, possibly the best commuter you could buy. But it needs to run perfect.

The problem is because the drivetrain is so ridiculously quiet, (it's a belt drive, after all), if you get any kind of squeak, no matter how infinitesimal, from anywhere, it completely overrides the riding experience. Since these sounds previously, were masked by the drivetrain! So - while you get 'low-to-zero' maintenance, you get another kind of maintenance, which is paranoia, about where the hell the latest noise is coming from, and, do I have the skills to fix it (as belt drives don't really reward 'standard' mechanical competence for bikes).

But - if you buy one - put your LBS under the gun and make sure they get it right, right out of the door. The problem is they need to be tip-top from day 1. If you're paying ~$1700 for a bike - make sure they have it running perfect... hold them to the fire. Unfortunately this is painful because.. there's only so many available, they get ridden/abused by prospective buyers.. some don't know how to really fix them.

But I ride daily to work and I love the thing. There's a good attention to detail on the bike (ie there's a teflon-like coating on the rear triangle, to dissuade crud from the belt accruing). I don't regret in any way the purchase apart from teething issues and look forward to many years of service.

dranged
2 posts
4 Feb 2013 5:26PM
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Another great thing is it's pretty stealth on the street. Most people don't give it a second look. It just looks like part of the background which is fantastic from a security by obscurity point of view. I just lock it in a reasonably high circulation area and don't give it a second thought thereafter.

GPA
WA, 2529 posts
4 Feb 2013 10:00PM
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^^^^
Thanks for the 'user review' dranged... much appreciated.

adolf
1862 posts
4 Feb 2013 10:16PM
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I think I saw the same bike in a shop last week, and was also struck by it, and wanted one. The shop also did conversions. But I didn't ask how much.

How difficult, what would be involved, how much would it cost to convert my bike to those hub gears and a belt drive?

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
5 Feb 2013 3:04AM
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Are you sure you need flat bars? Can't you ride in drop bars? I've seen some people on real high end bikes with flat bars and they were hunched over for speed, would have been better off in drop bars.
Cyclocross bikes have drops with brake handles on the top of the bars also.
The disc brakes are cool but I've read accounts of them failing when used on long steep downhills on road bikes.

adolf
1862 posts
13 Feb 2013 8:09PM
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While looking for my next bike, I came across this article

www.bikeexchange.com.au/blog/best-urban-belt-drive-bikes-2019



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