When should we expect the end of civilization as we know it? The Carbon Tax is in and Tony's on his way out.
"Has the sky fallen in yet? "........... It has for many boat people floating in the ocean north of Australia 
Not sure how is will do this, as he (if elected
) cant get control of the senate for at least 18 months, and the chances of him ousting those water melons (Greens) is a good as a snow ball in hell
Log man my man, if your going to post anything with sky in the title, please say something in there about there being nothing about chem trails in the article.
I was disapointed to read more politicle rant.
Cheers
hang 10
Yeah the sky still up there. However history shows dramatic ends usually start with small beginnings.
Electricity is going up about 20% in NSW. About 10% of the rise is attributed to the carbon tax. Nothing much many can do to reduce household power consumption as its already quite low and has been reducing in recent time. So basically its a tax that cannot be avoided and won't change behaviour unless we decide to suffer from poor health from living in a freezing house through winter.
If Gillard and co were really concerned about climate change or whatever the latest term is, they'd outlaw the export of coal from Australia, or institute some sort of carbon tax on the exported coal.
Its disgusting that a tax on burning coal is levied on Australian consumers, as increased business taxes will be passed onto consumers, while every hour of the day huge ships set sail with Australian coal.
It may do when the rest off Australia and me starts burning their wood fire again to save cash .
We stopped burning wood two years ago , even though it's available and reasonably priced .
Well now , the electric heaters will be boosted with the good old smokey fire !
Breath deeply Jules and loggy
Yes denial is over and the science is agreed that CO2 causes the earth to heat and to cool 
Much in the same way that a log fire can cause your house to heat or to act like a fridge and cool.
And don't forget fire can also cause three superstructures to fall symmetrically [into the path of most resistance] in near free-fall speed into a very,very convenient little pile.
Much in the same way that a log fire can cause your house to heat or to act like a fridge and cool. tell me more Peter 
Isn't the path of most resistance also the path of the only force that is operating, namely gravity?
that quenches my thirst on that subject...thank you Peter
after the next election they will have to change the partys name to the 'tarago party' cos thats about all the seats they will manage to keep
after the next election they will have to change the partys name to the 'tarago party' cos thats about all the seats they will manage to keep
The only way Tony Abbott could remove the (socialist policy) Carbon Tax hitting businesses for additional tax revenue would be to increase GST (conservative policy).
That way the rich make more money, the worker just pays more for everything. While doing that he can finish the job of removing all laws regarding employment rights to really maximize the profits of his rich mates. Meanwhile, cut health spending, education and everything else the average Aussie relies upon but hey... No national debt right?? Fantastic. That's all that's important right??
The best policy of course would be somewhere in the middle.
The Accounting professor at the local Uni told me they have done papers and studied the real effects of the Carbon Tax.
The Academic opinion is that at its current level the cost to business will not make a big enough difference to them to take any real action or make decisions to generate less Carbon.
Reality is it's a tax brought in under the guise of environmentalism as it's the softest way to introduce it. Rely upon peoples environmental conscience.
I don't know about you but i'd prefer the government to just come out and say with an ageing population and reduction in tax revenue additional tax was required. This is the case no matter how it's collected.
Abbott has no idea, no miracles. If you remove the tax from one end he has to find another way to collect it.
The tip is and if you look at the main deciding point at the last election with a hung parliament the billions of dollars unaccounted for in Abbotts budget papers that it was better for them to say it was a mistake than reveal the plan to increase the tax revenue to fill the hole. Odds on it was an increase to GST which would have been a lot less popular than a carbon tax......
Another little tax to add to the multitude of other little taxes that "arent much extra". Will make zero difference to carbon emissions, cost Australia whilst rewarding our competitors.
Assuming the gov then distributes ALL proceeds to renewable energy concepts it deems the best, instead of those the free market would have allocated to once viable, rewarding the unsustainable and hampering the actual solution. As a result, the move toward renewable energy to take even longer over the long term.
Another destructive measure over the long term. But yes, the sky has not fallen in over night, it was never the claim. As commodity prices drop and we deal with reality at some point in the future, lets see how our overtaxed businesses compete offshore..
Morally wrong, she has managed to sell it to the illinformed though, sounds great in theory I suppose.
me thinks businesses are grossly undertaxed, about time those bludgers started pulling their weight
