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I wish I'd been a pilot.

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Created by evlPanda > 9 months ago, 27 Mar 2013
Mark _australia
WA, 23701 posts
1 Apr 2013 6:24PM
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saltiest1 said...
how do you know when theres a pilot in a room full of people?





he will tell you.






Wow you met the same bloke as dirtyharry

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
1 Apr 2013 10:16PM
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saltiest1
NSW, 2575 posts
2 Apr 2013 11:16AM
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oops. sorry about that.
the guy i know is a retired crop duster that survived 7 crashes including a few where he ripped the tail off using power lines.
now hes a fellow skydiver. says its safer.

Carantoc
WA, 7298 posts
2 Apr 2013 9:35AM
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Since 2010 I wish I had been an unemployed Victorian manufacturing line worker with a Union card, not a hard working member of the resource industry workforce, putting whatever extra I had into my Super account so that when the boom was over I could pay for my own way through retirement.

Then again maybe I should have been an MP. Would have been like being back at Kindergarten, all day screaming at everyone else, with no responsibility for my actions, but with the extra benefit of free perks for life.

sn
WA, 2775 posts
2 Apr 2013 11:29AM
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I used to email a chopper pilot from Hawaii a few years ago,
Real good bloke, a down to earth ex vietnam flyer, and then fire bombing and anything chopper related.
Russel had a lot of great yarns to spin, reckoned he had more than his share of unpowered gliding time in choppers.
[something like 16 unplanned "landings"]
I think his on-line monica of "Crash Residue" described him pretty well.
Havent heard from him for a couple of years, need to catch up one day and swap stories again.

stephen

MavericK040
WA, 583 posts
6 Apr 2013 8:14PM
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All this talk of hang gliding and wanting to be a pilot has got me all excited for flying again!

I had major aspirations to be an AG pilot where you get to "fly" instead of sit behind an auto pilot, but I moved in with my girlfriend instead :-(

I have 62 hours in my logbook and I'm 2 nav flights away from my PPL flying exam. So close! But coming up with $500-$700 a lesson ( for the later stage ones that is, incase anyone thinking of having some is reading and is now put off on account of cost ) is getting hard! But I will persevere and get it done!

Although, these days you can get your CPL on HECS like a uni student as well as do it part time makes it more than do able while still earning a small wage elsewhere and covering the all important life expenses.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
9 Apr 2013 10:42PM
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relevant.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
9 Apr 2013 10:52PM
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sn said...
I used to email a chopper pilot from Hawaii a few years ago,
Real good bloke, a down to earth ex vietnam flyer, and then fire bombing and anything chopper related.
Russel had a lot of great yarns to spin, reckoned he had more than his share of unpowered gliding time in choppers.
[something like 16 unplanned "landings"]
I think his on-line monica of "Crash Residue" described him pretty well.
Havent heard from him for a couple of years, need to catch up one day and swap stories again.

stephen


There is an awesome book by a vietnam chopper pilot, "iron horse' or something. They used to fly way over the weight limit routinely, so they invented ways to get the hueys off the ground. Dragging landing gear for 50-100m became standard practice as with enough forward speed the thing would suddenly pop up. There's a great story of the pilot pulling up from a fast landing realising he's the wrong side of the fence, a foot above a minefield and not having the power to go up again, stuck in a hover. Ended up cutting the bush 1 side with the rotor to get space for a run up then hopping up and sideways at the last second centimetres above the barb wire fence into the base. All while at max power with guys bleeding out and a foot off a minefield on a hillside.

Toph
WA, 1890 posts
9 Apr 2013 10:22PM
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That would be Chickenhawk by Rob Mason.

Hamsta
505 posts
9 Apr 2013 10:57PM
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I fly and have flown in planes and choppers a lot and being a pilot of either would be an incredibly tedious and boring occupation in my opinion. Very regimented and routine. It is not like the Bristows Pilots can get loose in the Eurocopter and buzz Whales and stuff.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
10 Apr 2013 8:42AM
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Toph said...
That would be Chickenhawk by Rob Mason.


Yep you're right.



Well worth finding & reading.

stuk
NSW, 894 posts
10 Apr 2013 12:05PM
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Beaglebuddy said...
There is some sort of cancer that flight crews get from being closer to the suns radiation.
Flying sounds great but not if this is the result.


Yeah but its only during daylight saving

Toph
WA, 1890 posts
10 Apr 2013 11:21AM
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Sure is Kiteboy Dave. One of the very few books I have read from cover to cover in a few days (other than Zoo or People).

I would love to see someone make it into a movie.

Beaglebuddy, and don't forget the fumes from the Skydrol leaking into the cockpit. Some aircraft are worse then others but I don't think any of it is proven.

stuk
NSW, 894 posts
10 Apr 2013 9:29PM
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woof

FormulaNova
WA, 15105 posts
20 Apr 2013 6:48AM
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Toph said...
That would be Chickenhawk by Rob Mason.


I just finished reading this. Its a pretty good book.

It is pretty sad though, and makes you understand how these guys had their lives ruined by going over there.

It sounds like he loved the flying bit, and was luckier than some, but it meant nothing when it had that much of an effect on his mind.

I can't help thinking that it shows how fighting any war these days without well drawn out battle lines, in amongst the people, is futile.

Chook2
WA, 1249 posts
20 Apr 2013 11:11AM
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If you can find it "Life after Chicken hawk" By Robert Mason is a must read as well. I got it as an inter library exchange as they are pretty rare nowdays.


"Low Level Hell, A Scout Pilot In The Big Red One,"
by Hugh L. Mills Jr., Robert A. Anderson is one hell of a read as well.

I loved "Apache Dawn" by Damien Lewis, in Afghanistan all about the Apache heli missions.

Just a few good reads, if your into rotorcraft.

Toph
WA, 1890 posts
20 Apr 2013 11:19AM
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Chook2 said...
If you can find it "Life after Chicken hawk" By Robert Mason is a must read as well. I got it as an inter library exchange as they are pretty rare nowdays.


"Low Level Hell, A Scout Pilot In The Big Red One,"
by Hugh L. Mills Jr., Robert A. Anderson is one hell of a read as well.

I loved "Apache Dawn" by Damien Lewis, in Afghanistan all about the Apache heli missions.

Just a few good reads, if your into rotorcraft.




Yeah Life after Chickenhawk really shows how the minds of these people where ruined. I didn't particularly enjoy the book, but the insight to what they went through (and still are) after the war is nothing short of disturbing.

Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
20 Apr 2013 11:40AM
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this is a bit of pilot fun (without the expense)

- flying a camera gives you a very different experience to just blatting around the park as you have to try and introduce some precision into your patterns.

Mark _australia
WA, 23701 posts
20 Apr 2013 11:47AM
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Yeah but a quadrotor is cheating Matt

Reflex Films
WA, 1463 posts
20 Apr 2013 11:52AM
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A single rotor would be awesome but i dont have the time to spend perfecting the tricky art of flying these.

Here is some "single rotor" action




The quad lets you focus on the camera moves though... i dont need to spend the next year smashing helis and cameras before i can get accurate useable shots.

Mark _australia
WA, 23701 posts
20 Apr 2013 1:53PM
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Nice!!

FormulaNova
WA, 15105 posts
20 Apr 2013 6:31PM
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Chook2 said...
If you can find it "Life after Chicken hawk" By Robert Mason is a must read as well. I got it as an inter library exchange as they are pretty rare nowdays.



I downloaded Chickenhawk on the Kindle, so I might see if they have the second one too.

Mr. No-one
WA, 921 posts
20 Apr 2013 8:04PM
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Reflex Films said...
this is a bit of pilot fun (without the expense)

- flying a camera gives you a very different experience to just blatting around the park as you have to try and introduce some precision into your patterns.

Would love to go a quad, the vid looks great, may have to pick your brain Matty on what to get and where. Are you going to go the FPV goggles?

cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
21 Apr 2013 4:07AM
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Reflex Films said...
this is a bit of pilot fun (without the expense)

- flying a camera gives you a very different experience to just blatting around the park as you have to try and introduce some precision into your patterns.




Handy way to deliver that bag of dope behind the camera.



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