If people from troubled country should / could agree to give up their freedom for the sake of safety ?
If each individual could carry ID collar that could be accessed remotely by government then where about of every single person will be known.
Those with dangerous intention could be temporary incapacitated.
As horrible as it sounds it could be alternative to be shot, gassed, bombed, starved to death, lost in wilderness in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Egypt, New Zealand etc
If "gadget" could be designed by Apple as next generation iColl-ar it may looks and sounds even quite cute.
and incorporate also mobile phone, payment card, music player and radio , GPS and rescue beacon.
Select to expand quoteGypsyDrifter said..
Ok!.... well this thread needs to be moved
It needs to be more than moved. It needs to be stripped, shaved, tarred, beaten, stuffed in a wet heshan bag, nailed to a frizbee and thrown into the sun...
That way if made and subsidised by "Apple" they could bombard you with every type of advert all day every day, unless of course you upgraded(paid through the nose)to avoid the ads and paid a hacker to turn it off to do nefarious deeds un hindered because you would also have a spare to 'place' you in a different location(alibi).
Of course it would work.
Extermination,gassing bombing would be easy, as all armaments would be coded to individual targets.
Of course it would work.
All assets would be transfered by a single hacked ID unlike today where each financial institution has its own card/code.
Of course it would work
Select to expand quoteTheWolf said..GypsyDrifter said..
Ok!.... well this thread needs to be moved
It needs to be more than moved. It needs to be stripped, shaved, tarred, beaten, stuffed in a wet heshan bag, nailed to a frizbee and thrown into the sun...
Nar, just put a collar on it 
We already have something like this. It's called a smart phone. People can't leave home without it.
Select to expand quoteNotWal said..
It might be good for paroled criminals. They already have something like that.
That is not the best way to introduce future life saving device.
Pejorative connotations..
At first iCollars use will be limited exclusively to some sorts of "elite" and associated with privileges.
* special forces - for safety and communication
* club members- free drinks and marijuana
* organisation members- free entry to golf clubs and strip shops
* unions- longer meals breaks
* Prime Minister ! - that could be good one - short electric reminder could be sent if votes in polls are not in line with actual policy
* Green Card collar for all illegal immigrants
* Green Party - free but limited access to weeds and other stuff
* AFL where fans could activate and stimulate their favorite teams
Select to expand quoteMobydisc said..
We already have something like this. It's called a smart phone. People can't leave home without it.
If cheaper smart phone version cost $100 then in Syria at 22 mln people,
handling over collars costs less then next war or even bunch of cruise missiles,
stricken of the sky fighters or sunken US aircraft.
Select to expand quotejusavina said..
Or people having red thumbs on sea breeze forum...
Great idea ! Each Red Thumb will send short electric reminder to the registered SB-er / poster.
I guess at the moderate strength 3 in the scale 0 to 5.
Luxury iCollars version on another hand could send electric signal to end user endorphin producing spheres as a reward for good behavior. For example every Green Thumb could activate your blue tooth synchronized micro vibrator hidden in your preferred location.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..NotWal said..
It might be good for paroled criminals. They already have something like that.
That is not the best way to introduce future life saving device.
Pejorative connotations..
At first iCollars use will be limited exclusively to some sorts of "elite" and associated with privileges.
* special forces - for safety and communication
* club members- free drinks and marijuana
* organisation members- free entry to golf clubs and strip shops
* unions- longer meals breaks
* Prime Minister ! - that could be good one - short electric reminder could be sent if votes in polls are not in line with actual policy
* Green Card collar for all illegal immigrants
You did say:Select to expand quote...If each individual could carry ID collar that could be accessed remotely by government then where about of every single person will be known. Those with dangerous intention could be temporary incapacitated.
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I don't think you are going to find too many "elites" volunteering for that.
As for the good things, as Moby pointed out we have phones for that.
Select to expand quoteNotWal said..
I don't think you are going to find too many "elites" volunteering for that.
You could be surprised with response to the experiment made already on students , where volunteers where offered free entry and drinks in the club in exchange for implanting micro chip under the skin.
Obviously the legitimate reason for implant was ultimate care for students health since micro chipping allowed precise counting and limitation of the served drinks and then consequent alcohol consumption.
^^^ yup and there will be a "legitimate" reason to do the whole world at some point. 
Select to expand quoteMark _australia said..
^^^ yup and there will be a "legitimate" reason to do the whole world at some point.
right, the matter is not even IF but WHEN the system will be introduced...
till then we are FREE TO SPECULATE how it may looks and works
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
If people from troubled country should / could agree to give up their freedom for the sake of safety ?
If each individual could carry ID collar that could be accessed remotely by government then where about of every single person will be known.
Those with dangerous intention could be temporary incapacitated.
As horrible as it sounds it could be alternative to be shot, gassed, bombed, starved to death, lost in wilderness in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Egypt, New Zealand etc
If "gadget" could be designed by Apple as next generation iColl-ar it may looks and sounds even quite cute.
and incorporate also mobile phone, payment card, music player and radio , GPS and rescue beacon.
....mmmm, this seems like such a great idea wonder it wasn't though up earlier - oh I forgot the Third Reich Team had it as their plan and look eventually where it got them.
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
If people from troubled country should / could agree to give up their freedom for the sake of safety ?
If each individual could carry ID collar that could be accessed remotely by government then where about of every single person will be known.
Those with dangerous intention could be temporary incapacitated.
As horrible as it sounds it could be alternative to be shot, gassed, bombed, starved to death, lost in wilderness in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Egypt, New Zealand etc
If "gadget" could be designed by Apple as next generation iColl-ar it may looks and sounds even quite cute.
and incorporate also mobile phone, payment card, music player and radio , GPS and rescue beacon.
Originality please...
everything we will ever invent ....was already done ....in the future
the funny side of that is :
knowing just that we have to start implementing some ideas at certain time, otherwise it will never happen.
For example: knowing that son will kill his own father could not prevent his father from having offspring in first place...
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..
Originality please...
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contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.
For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..FlySurfer said..
Originality please...
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contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.
For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....
It's called Planet of the Apes
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..FlySurfer said..
Originality please...
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contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.
For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....
you sound like a jerk
or an in an insurgent
maybe both
please remove yourself from this planet
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..FlySurfer said..
Originality please...
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contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.
For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....
Those are all features of the 24hr cycle regulator.
Actually my initial idea was emergency wrist device for swimmers at our danger surf beaches.
How it works.
Our surf beach could be quite dangerous place, not only for overseas tourists.
Swimmer/ surfer in difficulty could have problem with signaling in time to the Life Savers that need help or even rescue.
Device in the from of wrist watch, or belt with just easy to access panic button could send RF signal to the beach control tower/ life guards.
Local triangulation ( or GPS) could allow for instant localisation .
Additionally device could emit high frequency sound.
Remotely activated alarm also speed up action and avoid confusion specifically at busy place like Bondi Beach.
Such device could/should be hired/rented at very low cost from every Life Saver Guard.
Select to expand quotetheDoctor said..Macroscien said..FlySurfer said..
Originality please...
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contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.
For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....
you sound like a jerk
or an in an insurgent
maybe both
please remove yourself from this planet
Snap
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..
Actually my initial idea was emergency wrist device for swimmers at our danger surf beaches.
How it works.
Our surf beach could be quite dangerous place, not only for overseas tourists.
Swimmer/ surfer in difficulty could have problem with signaling in time to the Life Savers that need help or even rescue.
Device in the from of wrist watch, or belt with just easy to access panic button could send RF signal to the beach control tower/ life guards.
Local triangulation ( or GPS) could allow for instant localisation .
Additionally device could emit high frequency sound.
Remotely activated alarm also speed up action and avoid confusion specifically at busy place like Bondi Beach.
Such device could/should be hired/rented at very low cost from every Life Saver Guard.
No it wasn't & you've already discussed military use...which it would end up being.
By the way - who has the right to judge the 'good guys' & 'bad guys' when it comes to warfare? If it were based on (our) media, it would be everyone else - if it were based on actual killings & government attacks it would probably be who you/we get told are the "good guys".
Select to expand quoteSailhack said..
who has the right to judge the 'good guys' & 'bad guys'
Intention of the device is instant and constant identification.
Whereabouts of everybody anytime everywhere.
This is just information. What you do with that depend on the political system we do create and live in.
Now possibly 99% of all crime is done because the lack of this information (identification).
All perpetrators strongly believe that never will be identified and found.
Wars possibly too are due to lack of knowledge.
We know that chemical weapons were used in Syria but we don't have a clue who used it.
Times are changing and our population mentality too.
From excessive obsession about privacy some gone to another end exposing every aspect of their life in details on social media- Facebook and tweeter.
Select to expand quoteSailhack said..Macroscien said..
Actually my initial idea was emergency wrist device for swimmers at our danger surf beaches.
How it works.
Our surf beach could be quite dangerous place, not only for overseas tourists.
Swimmer/ surfer in difficulty could have problem with signaling in time to the Life Savers that need help or even rescue.
Device in the from of wrist watch, or belt with just easy to access panic button could send RF signal to the beach control tower/ life guards.
Local triangulation ( or GPS) could allow for instant localisation .
Additionally device could emit high frequency sound.
Remotely activated alarm also speed up action and avoid confusion specifically at busy place like Bondi Beach.
Such device could/should be hired/rented at very low cost from every Life Saver Guard.
No it wasn't & you've already discussed military use...which it would end up being.
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By the way - who has the right to judge the 'good guys' & 'bad guys' when it comes to warfare? If it were based on (our) media, it would be everyone else - if it were based on actual killings & government attacks it would probably be who you/we get told are the "good guys".
+1
Select to expand quoteMacroscien said..Sailhack said..
who has the right to judge the 'good guys' & 'bad guys'
Intention of the device is instant and constant identification.
Whereabouts of everybody anytime everywhere.
This is just information. What you do with that depend on the political system we do create and live in.
Now possibly 99% of all crime is done because the lack of this information (identification).
All perpetrators strongly believe that never will be identified and found.
Wars possibly too are due to lack of knowledge.
We know that chemical weapons were used in Syria but we don't have a clue who used it.
Times are changing and our population mentality too.
From excessive obsession about privacy some gone to another end exposing every aspect of their life in details on social media- Facebook and tweeter.
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No matter how you coat it this idea would just place us individual citizens in harms way from those who get the control button ...it makes it all to easy for us to be further 'ruled' and means the end to diversity of thinking ....
I am just stating the fact in cold scientific manner .
Everything is going in this direction anyway, if you wish or not.
Now is everything in our hands to take extraordinary care who we put at state steering wheel and what powers we give to him/her.
First example is made already when decision to send missile was made regardless of the US congress to support it or not.
We are very lucky to have one of the smartest US president at the helm this time but that could not be assured in the future every time.
My postulate :
Give people complete freedom to information but at this same time iron cladded civil rights and protection.
Suppose that mentioned iCollar has the power for instant voting/ polling and when at the time substantial majority - say 70% voters decide to change their president, decision is made. We could avoid Egipt, Syria, NK where one person stay at power against majority mandate.
What about Swimmers Life Saver iBeacon ? Worth to try ?
A bracelet or something that you can choose to wear, designed specifically for surf-lifesaving...why not?
A collar that must be worn for information gathering & controlled by government or those with the remote - that would be a 'F**K NO!' from me!
PBS's have been around for a while, not sure if there's one on that scale though.
Macro dude, you've got a bad batch of weed this time, take it back to your dealer and get a refund. It's clearly been laced with hallucinogens!
