That looks like just plain old BAD driving. ![]()
There were only two cars, his and one other, and all he had to do was drive around it.
That's drive around it. NOT over it. ![]()
The Lotus braked earlier and Webber closing speed was 10-15kms better than Lotus. Webber never said that Haki was to blame. The footage really dosnt show the full picture of what happened.
pweedas you cant even begin to compare racing with everyday driving.
Racing is so safe because drivers do know exactly what the other was doing and which line they are taking and at what point they will brake.
Webber screwed up by staying in the slipstream a bit too long, then it seemed like neither knew what the other was doing. Heikki stuffed up by braking in a position that gave webber no room. Unlucky for both but that's racing.
I watched the race, Webber is a better driver in a faster car, the Lotus team are at the bottom and Red Bull are at the top of the game. Webber ended up behind the other car after he pitted for hard tires, when he tried to pass, the other guy blocked which he admitted to doing because he didn't want to lose his race position. The problem with that is he was never going to stay in front of Webber, the general thought from those a lot smarter than any of us in F1 is he should never have blocked a much faster Webber. It'd be different if there was not much in it between them like the guys up front.
(Racing is so safe because drivers do know exactly what the other was doing and which line they are taking and at what point they will brake) Exactly that's why no one would have expected the clown in the Lotus to turn in front of a much faster Webber ![]()
If he had any nutz he's be on 2 wheels like Stoner instead of playing slot cars.
Maybe he should go play soccer.![]()
HK was reported to have braked approximately 80m early, that for an F1 car is a country mile in braking distance +1 seconds early, when you are sitting 2m's away from the back of a car which can decelerate like an F1 (even the lotus) it's always going to end badly.
HK was 5 sec's a lap slower, Webber caught up around 150m in 3 corners it was never in the real world a race for position.
Fortunately next year I think they will be returning to the 105% rule for car speeds, which will remove the very slow from the field
Are there any stats on Webber crashing? He just seems to crash ...so often. For a while there it seemed predictable.
after it flipped it landed luckily on front, cushioning the force, then it landed on rollbar.
had it landed on rollbar first can't believe he would have survived without serious injury.
it's ok, webber has lots of experience with backloops- this wasn't nearly as spectacular as his writing off the merc clr's ![]()
Maybe he is trying to perfect them for the red bull nye festivities
Seriously though a properly landed fully planing err driving backloop would be mighty impressive [}:)]
I think the arguments about avoiding accidents go out the window because "its racing".
By definition you are pushing the limits of the car and your skill to try and get to the front.
If you drove safely they whole way through the race then nobody would ever pass and the starting positions would be the finishing positions (excluding mechanical breakdowns).
If you are pushing your limits then a certain amount of crashes are to be expected.
Kind of like learning a new move when windsurfing, your first attempts as loops will inevitably end up in a crash.
The RB's still have reliability issues, the race before last MW was put back 5 grid places as the had to replace his "Suspect" gearbox before the race.
The joys of pushing the limits of technology and development
Metal filings in gearboxes are normal for a gearbox which is about to self destruct.
It's always from the case hardened surface flaking off bearings or gears.
In critical applications like helicopters etc, they put in a chip detector so you get a few hours warning before it fails completely.
I don't know if racing cars have chip detectors, but it's easy enough to have a magnetic drain plug so any metal chips stick to the drain plug and can be seen when you change the oil.
I guess a racing car gearbox might get a few metal chips in the oil from constantly smacking it through the gears.
yeah dog gears are pretty rough usually.
There's always a magnetic plug in a racing gearbox, that's one of the first thing you look at when they get serviced... a bit like the engine one, it gives you an idea of what to expect during the strip!
Might have been just what he needed, a poke in the eye so to speak, that made him think, "stuff this, I'll show the bastards" ![]()
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