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NBN next rollout phase - 'fess up who's lucky?

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Created by GalahOnTheBay > 9 months ago, 18 Oct 2011
GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
18 Oct 2011 8:40PM
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Looks like NBN just published the next phase rollout plans:

www.nbn.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/12-month-rollout.pdf

and

http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/media-releases/2011/maps-12-month-rollout-hr-18-oct-2011.pdf

Anyone here lucky enough to be on the list?

Hint: not me

hamburglar
ACT, 2174 posts
18 Oct 2011 9:16PM
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how fast is fast? i use a mobile USB port next G, gives me blink time and its there
in a flash! what a waste of money that could be put in to health or some other worth while project

CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
18 Oct 2011 10:09PM
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hamburglar said...

how fast is fast? i use a mobile USB port next G, gives me blink time and its there
in a flash! what a waste of money that could be put in to health or some other worth while project


The thing about the NBN is it's 'future proofing' the countries network infrastructure. Everyday the web gets more and more bandwidth hungry and it's only going to increase. It happens already but streaming TV, movies, video calls etc are the future and they require a LOT of bandwidth, our lives are going to become increasingly intertwined with the Internet, like it or not.

Just like you can't realistically browse today's Internet very effectively on a dial up modem, you won't be able to make the most out of the Internet of the future on run of the mill ADSL, that's why the NBN is happening. Expensive, sure, but if you're going to do it, do it properly, which is what they are doing.

Mark _australia
WA, 23721 posts
18 Oct 2011 8:31PM
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Who's lucky?

At the cost of $42bil (= 6 world class major capital city hospitals), I'd say none of us.

Can't wait for GDP to triple as touted by the pro-NBN people, but can't see it happening unfortunatley.

Looks like the Gero crew will be posting here more though

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
18 Oct 2011 9:02PM
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CJW said...
The thing about the NBN is it's 'future proofing' the countries network infrastructure.

Cor CJ, you're not expecting a long future, are you ? The NBN infrastructure is old technology before it goes in. Of all industries, there's no such thing as "futureproofing" in IT. Check out Sth Korea's setup for modern IT infrastructure.

longwinded
WA, 347 posts
18 Oct 2011 9:21PM
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Here in Shoalwater we are expecting underground power and the removal of the outdated power poles at great cost to the residents.
Why they haven't glued the NBN onto this project astounds me. If your digging up the joint why not run the cabling at the same time?

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
18 Oct 2011 11:36PM
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I'm going to say this once and go away.

You can't move data faster than light speed. BY DEFINITION THE NBN IS 100% F'EN FUTURE PROOF.

Galah... I got 2 suburbs close to me on that list.. D'oh!



Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
19 Oct 2011 12:40AM
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Bugger! The map shows the coverage area has a 'chunk' out of the corner that includes my block
It will be about 200m west and about 200m south of my place.
So close, yet so far away....

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
19 Oct 2011 11:39AM
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CJW said...

hamburglar said...

how fast is fast? i use a mobile USB port next G, gives me blink time and its there
in a flash! what a waste of money that could be put in to health or some other worth while project


The thing about the NBN is it's 'future proofing' the countries network infrastructure. Everyday the web gets more and more bandwidth hungry and it's only going to increase. It happens already but streaming TV, movies, video calls etc are the future and they require a LOT of bandwidth, our lives are going to become increasingly intertwined with the Internet, like it or not.

Just like you can't realistically browse today's Internet very effectively on a dial up modem, you won't be able to make the most out of the Internet of the future on run of the mill ADSL, that's why the NBN is happening. Expensive, sure, but if you're going to do it, do it properly, which is what they are doing.


Correct answer.

dinsdale said...

CJW said...
The thing about the NBN is it's 'future proofing' the countries network infrastructure.

Cor CJ, you're not expecting a long future, are you ? The NBN infrastructure is old technology before it goes in. Of all industries, there's no such thing as "futureproofing" in IT. Check out Sth Korea's setup for modern IT infrastructure.




Alan Jones parrot answer. Go to the bottom of the class dinsdale. Now read and memorise kiteboy dave's rebuff of that idiot and write 100 times "Alan Jones is a moron" for tomorrow's class.

I'm like you kiteboy - 2 suburbs on the list are close, but not close enough dammit.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
19 Oct 2011 11:48AM
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Looks like if you are in Tasmania you get lots of balloons. Why do they get so many balloons compared to the rest of us? The whole place is covered in them with different colours!

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
19 Oct 2011 12:12PM
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Mobydisc said...

Looks like if you are in Tasmania you get lots of balloons. Why do they get so many balloons compared to the rest of us? The whole place is covered in them with different colours!




They are mainly "Green"!!

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
19 Oct 2011 12:31PM
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I can't get fiber to my socket soon enough .

No seriously, I've been farking around with my ISP for the past 3 months trying to get my sync speed back to the 18000kps down and 2300kps up.
I've been off line for a week, had speeds ~130kps up, they've sent out 3 telstra people, 2 visiontek people and another on the way.

My pings are CRAP and I feel like I'm living in a 3rd world country. I don't have a TV antenna or a phone line, so my internet connection is essential.
And no NBN where I am

To those who are happy with their old school BS, 3G... you remind me of my barber. Hey wot u talking bout, my normal TV with Foxtel looks just as good as dis new HD rubbish. No Roco, you have macular degeneration (look what you've done to my hair), your TV is blurry and it's hard to read the text.

I WANT FIBER NOW!

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
19 Oct 2011 3:28PM
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FlySurfer said...
I WANT FIBER fibre NOW!


Their (sic), fixed it for ya Flying One!

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
19 Oct 2011 12:33PM
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I am lucky as I have it already. Was part of the technology package I bought with my block of land in Capricorn estate in Yanchep, it is great and super fast, I have all on 1 line (TV, Foxtel, phone, internet). I payed for it so I have no bad feelings about it.

Mark _australia
WA, 23721 posts
19 Oct 2011 2:08PM
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felixdcat said...

I am lucky as I have it already. Was part of the technology package I bought with my block of land in Capricorn estate in Yanchep, it is great and super fast, I have all on 1 line (TV, Foxtel, phone, internet). I payed for it so I have no bad feelings about it.


Yeah and Felix I live 50km up the road and can't get digital TV or an FM radio station so you are doing well
Then again I don't care as they are not esentials. Geez, the geeks talk like it is essential to be able to download a movie in 2mins not 10mins. Farrrk me how fast is fast enough?

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
19 Oct 2011 5:41PM
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It isn't about speed, Mark, it's about bandwidth. The more you have, the more you can do.

An example - I'd like to scrap my phone and cable tv and just have a (bit bigger) broadband connection that I can run all that through. That'd save me over $100 a month even once I factor in the extra for a bigger download limit. Trouble is, I've tried VOIP before and gave up because my broadband upload speed wasn't able to handle the volume of data being thrown at it. That meant that I could hear people I was talking to clearly but sometimes what I was saying would end up being garbled at their end. So I gave up for now. Meaning I can't save myself money because my broadband speed isn't up to it. Also, as we get more bandwidth, new ideas about what to use it for will be created. That boils down to new industries and new jobs.

Hell, when I were at skool there WERE no compooters except in them science fikshun books. Now look!

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
19 Oct 2011 4:56PM
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kiteboy dave said...
I'm going to say this once and go away.
You can't move data faster than light speed. BY DEFINITION THE NBN IS 100% F'EN FUTURE PROOF.

Explain 12mb/s @ e

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
19 Oct 2011 4:58PM
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SomeOtherGuy said...
Alan Jones parrot answer. Go to the bottom of the class dinsdale. Now read and memorise kiteboy dave's rebuff of that idiot and write 100 times "Alan Jones is a moron" for tomorrow's class.

You too; explain 12mb/s @ e

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
19 Oct 2011 8:01PM
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dinsdale said...

SomeOtherGuy said...
Alan Jones parrot answer. Go to the bottom of the class dinsdale. Now read and memorise kiteboy dave's rebuff of that idiot and write 100 times "Alan Jones is a moron" for tomorrow's class.

You too; explain 12mb/s @ e




You get 12 millibits per second at what??

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
19 Oct 2011 8:04PM
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12 millibits per second is pretty slow by the way. I used to get 300 bits per second with my first-ever modem back in the early 80's.

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
19 Oct 2011 8:11PM
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Mark _australia said...

Who's lucky?
At the cost of $42bil (= 6 world class major capital city hospitals), I'd say none of us.
Can't wait for GDP to triple as touted by the pro-NBN people, but can't see it happening unfortunatley.
Looks like the Gero crew will be posting here more though


No way NBN will do anything to GDP to be honest, but as long as I'm paying for it (as a tax payer) I might as well get some benefit!

swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
19 Oct 2011 7:18PM
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can someone explain to me what the point of NBN is? all this extra bandwidth, does this mean we get more wind and waves?

if not, then wtf does anyone care, so you can facebook faster? as a taxpayer, i'll be honest i reckon there are bigger issues around then this.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
19 Oct 2011 5:58PM
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swoosh said...

can someone explain to me what the point of NBN is




FASTER INTERNETS

SomeOtherGuy
NSW, 807 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:17PM
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^^^^

and faster internets = more jobs. As in:

SomeOtherGuy said...

Hell, when I were at skool there WERE no compooters except in them science fikshun books. Now look!


swoosh
QLD, 1929 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:43PM
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based on this we should be spending the money on doors that go *wooosh* and spaceships that go hyperspace!

BulldogPup
6657 posts
19 Oct 2011 7:56PM
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So does all this mean that spadger & boobiac I want to maybe have a gander at will be on my lap in "blinkspeed"???? bring NBN on if yes![}:)]
Hey markus - if you can get a leave pass from the missus come down for a beer mate , you can use my new connection mate , we'll run a cable off the back of your 4WD and it'll run itself out on your way back home!

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
19 Oct 2011 11:03PM
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dinsdale said...

kiteboy dave said...
I'm going to say this once and go away.
You can't move data faster than light speed. BY DEFINITION THE NBN IS 100% F'EN FUTURE PROOF.

Explain 12mb/s @ e




techcrunch.com/2011/03/23/zte-breaks-fiber-optic-speed-record-10tbps-over-640km/

How about 10,485,760 Mbps old mate... apparently that translates to 12mbps in alan jones land

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
19 Oct 2011 10:56PM
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kiteboy dave said...
techcrunch.com/2011/03/23/zte-breaks-fiber-optic-speed-record-10tbps-over-640km/
How about 10,485,760 Mbps old mate... apparently that translates to 12mbps in alan jones land

Parts of the Geraldton roll-out are 12Mb/s - light speed for slow light?

busterwa
3782 posts
19 Oct 2011 11:22PM
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dinsdale said...

kiteboy dave said...
techcrunch.com/2011/03/23/zte-breaks-fiber-optic-speed-record-10tbps-over-640km/
How about 10,485,760 Mbps old mate... apparently that translates to 12mbps in alan jones land

Parts of the Geraldton roll-out are 12Mb/s - light speed for slow light?



Our priority as a labor government is to implement poverty stricken remote areas like applecross

Carantoc
WA, 7300 posts
20 Oct 2011 8:25PM
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GalahOnTheBay said...

Anyone here lucky enough to be on the list?



Would appear so far the answer is NO.

One cat for 'already got it' - except that isn't actually the NBN, that was fibre to the home installed in a new estate as part of the developer's commerical interest in selling properties with fibre to the home at a larger profit than without.

It wasn't the Government spending $38 billion (sorry 38 last month, 42 this month) to put fibre to every home whether you want it or not at taxpayer expense. It was a private developer putting it in of their own choosing a couple of years prior to the NBN legislation being passed, then charging the consumer directly in the price of the land.

And - as far as I can see fibre to the home hasn't resulted in anyone in Capricorn Estate creating any jobs or not being able to conduct emergency brain surgery at home, it has just meant people in Capricorn Estate can get a vast array of personnel entertainment on demand.

So, the original question remains - and the answer appears to be NO, nobody sees it coming down the street yet.

But - it must be somewhere ? However, given only 7% of homes within those initial blobs in Tasmania actually used the NBN after it was installed into their homes, I guess not only has somebody got to see it coming, they also got to not be one of the 93%.

If they installed it into Galah cages and someotherguy's house and billed them direct, instead of Marking_the_whole_of_Australia whether they want it or not and sending me the bill, I think the issue wouldn't be quite as contentious

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
25 Oct 2011 12:01PM
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FlySurfer said...

I can't get fiber to my socket soon enough .

No seriously, I've been farking around with my ISP for the past 3 months trying to get my sync speed back to the 18000kps down and 2300kps up.
I've been off line for a week, had speeds ~130kps up, they've sent out 3 telstra people, 2 visiontek people and another on the way.

My pings are CRAP and I feel like I'm living in a 3rd world country. I don't have a TV antenna or a phone line, so my internet connection is essential.
And no NBN where I am


Had another Vision Stream guy out, then another Telstra level 2 guy out... Seems like there's nobody in NSW who knows how to resolve noise on a copper line... woo hoo.




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