Who will they give the titles to - is there anyone left who is not under suspicion? Does he have to give back his prize money. What about his team mates?
I heard that the french cycling federation wants to get the prize money back from Armstrong and invest it into the youth training program. So no official winner for those editions.
Maybe they need to find out what he was on and give to other cancer survivors as well.
If you've seen anyone go through cancer you'd know there's nothing left of you afterwards. Get 'em the good stuff!
What I think is he is the bigger cheat ever caught, all the others have been lucky so far.............. the tour has a big history of dopping going back years ago, contestants died on it for taking to much dope and exhausting themself........ sorry to say that but if you win you are using some sort of chemical help! or blood transfusion that is not detectable yet.
The question it raises (sadly) - is "Is it even possible to be competitive WITHOUT cheating?"
The drugs they take are not detectable on a simple urine test - EPO is a naturally occurring substance and there is a range of normal - adding just a little bit to your body will slightly improve your performance without raising your blood levels signficantly.
Blood doping (taking your own blood, storing it and then re-injecting it) is similarly hard to detect - it's only noticeable on serial haematocrit readings.
And one of the big issues with Lance was because his testicles had been removed, so he was on medically necessary testosterone supplements, but what dose is medically necessary and what dose is a 'little extra'.
4 Corners will dedicate next weeks show to LA and the whole sordid mess. Should be interesting. Lance is a folk hero to many. It's kinda sad, but at the same time riveting to watch the fairy story turn to film noir.
The UCI has yet to examine the USADA/WADA report. They have 3 weeks from last Wednesday I think in which to respond. They have a team of lawyers pouring over it now.
Is this what you are looking for CC ?
Re post from Gs12 7/7/12
This graphic comes from Bicycling Magazine, May 2011. To put this into context, Bicycling Magazine prefaces this graphic by stating:
Here's how the Tour de France would look during every year Armstrong podiumed if the top 10 were scrubbed of any finisher who at the time of his career was formally connected to performance enhancing drugs or blood doping (those riders appear in the shaded boxes). Because we had to draw a line somewhere to prevent unsubstantiated accusations from eliminating a rider, we defined “formally connected” as riders who:
- Admitted to doping or were banned or fully (not provisionally) suspended by a sanctioning group for doping in relation to it.
- Were fully (not provisionally ) suspended or fired by their teams or individually withdrawn from races by their teams for some connection to doping
- Were convicted of doping in a sporting, criminal, or civil hearing or trial, or paid a fine to settle charges related to it.
Our criteria leaves lots of room for argument, and frankly, allows some riders who inspire widespread public doubt to remain categorized as clean. But even through this somewhat constrained lens, the decimation of the general classification of the sport's crown jewel is shocking
BIKE RIDDING IS FOR GETTING TO SCHOOL AND BACK OR TO YA MATES PLACE BECAUSE YA STILL TO YOUNG TO GET A LICENCE...
4 Corners -- Lance Armstrong.???
Dear oh dear.
No doubt about it. He's not the messiah. He's a very naughty boy! 
And after all the inspiring words he said in that movie "Dodgeball". ??
Let's wait & see what happens with the Olympic Games in Rio 2016 & what are deemed to be 'performance enhancing drugs' for kite racing....that will be interesting.
interesting article in the Age this morning, showing a spreadsheet including photos of all place getters (1st 2nd 3rd) over a period of 20 years 1992- 2012 in the Tour, about 70% of them all were disqualified or reputation tainted, for drug use.... you know all this is bad stuff for Lance but I can't help but think, what were the people in position of authority within the world cycling organizations doing at this time?, as sleep at the wheel? To me its the old story of shooting the messengers whilst those in management shred all the documents that link themselves to this shambles... I would say that most are in the category of negligent in the "duty of care" of the positions they held/hold and are equally, if not more to blame for the rampant drug abuse in the sport.
and the support crew,..
im just reading "the secret race" by tyler hamilton
very good read and explains the situations the team is in to compete at that level. And coming from a junior rider to compete in the European season with ""professional"" cyclist.
there was no test for epo, so you had to have a blood hematocrit level less than 50 to be considered clean. If yours is naturally 40 then you have got lots of improvement. they measured this constantly so they could allegedly take only enough epo to give them a reading of less than 50. The doctors told them it would make them healthier after grueling days of cycling. Then there was the red egg tablets in the off season to repair muscles and make them healthier (testosterone, steroids). Then there was the blood re-fusion, to freshen up and give more oxygen carrying capacity for endurance.
When festina got busted, US Postal allegedly flushed $25,000 worth of drugs into the RV toilet, to avoid being caught. Then the riders had to make elaborate drop offs for it as the team couldnt supply it any longer. This guy was called moto man.
And it does not level the playing field by everyone using epo because different riders respond differently to it.
The tour is a team sport so the A grade riders need to be strong and helping the main man.
At last.
In accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code, the UCI had 21 days to respond, until October 31, and president Pat McQuaid today announced the world governing body would accept USADA's findings and ratified the sanctions imposed on Armstrong.
It means the Texan has been stripped of all results since August 1, 1998 and banned for life.
At a media conference in Geneva, McQuaid said: '(The UCI) will not appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and it will recognise the sanctions that USADA has imposed.
'The UCI will ban Lance Armstrong from cycling and the UCI will strip him of his seven Tour de France titles. Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling.'
what about all the other cyclists during that time who were on epo????????
its not like he was the only one doing it, just the highest profile
a clean sweep through them all would help for the future.
the problem is the dopers are always one step ahead of the testing
So is Cadel Evans clean ?
After what has come out the past week nothing would surprise me. 
From Sydney Morning Herald today:
< Evans is yet to comment at length on the Armstrong case. His Australian manager Jason Bakker, who has worked with Evans for the last few years, strongly backed the rider's credentials.
"I have absolute and utter faith in Cadel Evans - he's a man of the highest principles that I have met, without doubt," Bakker said. >
Read more: www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/evans-says-he-only-spoke-to-banned-doctor-once-20121022-28163.html
If they re-allocated the placings (which they are not doing apparently) after taking out "known" drug cheats, Cadel Evans would have won 2 more Tour de France 
Problem they have now is that all the dopers who retired from riding are now the team directors,coaches and advisors. These are now the guys who are claiming the next generation including Cadel are clean.
Pretty funny really that the UCI can even begin to claim the sport has cleaned up its act when these guys are running the show.
Bloody hiarious really
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