Why are warm, kind people attracted to cold, nasty, mean people? And how do they make it stop? I just don't get it.
When you're happy sad people make you sad.
When you're sad happy people make you sad.
Happy people make happy people happy, and sad people sad.
...exceptions prove the rule.
But to not answer your question there's a giant, messy pile of oddball, psychological, god-knows-what going on in the situations you describe.
I guess it's a bit being like a missionary. Some people just aren't going to believe in the missionary's god. And maybe they're right.
Hmmm. Very insightful and interesting. So if a person makes it clear they have no interest in being anything other than cold, angry, hurtful etc, any hot tips to help a happy person kill their attraction to the angry person?
Recently The Science show on RN had a good program on the dilemma your facing. Sounds like it is a dilemma every woman has to face:
mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2013/07/ssw_20130720_1237.mp3
Rob Brooks: ... do I choose a man who's got great genes and who's great at competing with other men and who's going to really thrive and provide, or do I choose a man who's going to be a nice guy and I'm going to be able to get along with him and he's going to be a good dad. And good dads are much easier to get along with, they tend to be men with more feminised faces.
Jonica Newby: See, I found that a fascinating thing, watching over the years various friends pair up for their long-term mate choices, and it seems that every woman finds herself choosing somewhere along the spectrum of testosterone or male enough to float the boat, have some chemistry, but not so much that they feel unsafe.
Rob Brooks: The bad boy. He can be incredibly attractive, and yet at the same time are you safe with the bad boy? If he's bad with other people, is he going to be bad with me? Is he going to mature? The ideal thing is to get men to mature, to cure them somehow into great dads and great partners. But does a leopard change his spots? There's a little bit of evidence that he does because nearly all men, once they settle down and once they become fathers their testosterone tends to go down, and so that's probably them settling into fatherhood, becoming a good dad, not being as keen on the argy-bargy that settles the business of who gets to mate.
Jonica Newby: Do you find yourself, as an evolutionary biologist, interested in this kind of choice that women have to make along this spectrum?
Rob Brooks: Absolutely. It's quite a delectable tension, isn't it, between the safe guy who is nice but might not perhaps get all the blood rushing, and the bad boy who is all very rock 'n' roll. And I think that's an exquisite dilemma and women really have to find their own way through that dilemma. For guys really you've just got to play the hand that is dealt you. You can't fake it, you can't pretend to be a badder boy than you really are because you will be found out and you will be punished.
...any hot tips to help a happy person kill their attraction to the angry person?
Get married? That usually kills any attraction. ![]()
(JOKE!!...in case the missus reads this) ![]()
Why are warm, kind people attracted to cold, nasty, mean people? And how do they make it stop? I just don't get it.
because warm kind people are also dumb
Why are warm, kind people attracted to cold, nasty, mean people? And how do they make it stop? I just don't get it.
What is the context ?. Male/Female sexual relationship ?, work relationship ?. Despot leader and subjects ?
Choco: Depends on your definition of dumb.
Why are warm, kind people attracted to cold, nasty, mean people? And how do they make it stop? I just don't get it.
What is the context ?. Male/Female sexual relationship ?, work relationship ?. Despot leader and subjects ?
Choco: Depends on your definition of dumb.
naive
Good topic, and from what I have been told pretty easy.
An old sailing mate/skipper told me about this many years ago.
The old syndrome of the lovely lady going out with the complete asshole! And since it was explained to me, I now see it an recognize it often.
The nice guy/girl ends up with the asshole, because they are nice and put up with the lies, deception, and all the other crap. They are too nice too leave their asshole partner, whether they believe it's all they deserve or not, and the relationship conitues, because the nice partner feels they deserve it, or that they will help the other partner, the other partner needs them, etc etc.
He pointed out to me an example of a really nice guy, a professor of something or other at sydney uni, and the wife was a complete in your face bitch, confrontational, always right, nothing ever good enough, etc, and we watched it for years. Did a Hobart race with him, a few southport races, etc, wife really was a cxnt!
Finally splits up after much soul searching, and ends up with a really nice girl, a bit younger but very sweet.....not a bad word to say about anyone, so different from his 1st wife it was astounding! They are so happy now, it is almost sickening!!! But you can see such a difference, like he was in hell before.
It is a common thing and you see ot all the time and I think it is women that are the worst affected, the bad boy syndrome etc.
My 2 cents worth and no you can't ask my wife!
You are attracted to another that has qualities you don't have
or qualities you would like to have....thats the 1st attraction!
then years later....you realise thats all it was, lust with no substance..
...any hot tips to help a happy person kill their attraction to the angry person?
Get married? That usually kills any attraction. ![]()
This is gold mate !!
Anyways, we often hear women marry men hoping they'll change, and men...
I learned quite young to apply that tenet. She tries to change you - pull out (easy to test).
He/she's with you hoping that you'll change? Get out.
She hoping you'll stop windsurfing? Guess what..
Still leaves plenty of fish in the ocean..
Hmmm. Very insightful and interesting. So if a person makes it clear they have no interest in being anything other than cold, angry, hurtful etc, any hot tips to help a happy person kill their attraction to the angry person?
Become angry yourself. You might attract someone nice ![]()
Why are warm, kind people attracted to cold, nasty, mean people?
Wahine,
what kind of ridiculous, meaningless question are you asking here? I've never seen such a dumb post before! It's just plain stupid!!
BTW, pm me if you want my number ![]()
Seriously though, opposites attract, no? It's just human nature.
Thank you
Lots of interesting thoughts and good advice here.
It's sad isn't it? You think you know yourself then your heart runs off and does stupid things completely contrary to your best judgement.
And dumb as above. That even when you can see something is bad, you can't seem to make it stop. Dumb.
bad people are good at social engineering. and nice people are easyily manipulated.
Best (short) answer yet IMO.
Why are warm, kind people attracted to cold, nasty, mean people? And how do they make it stop? I just don't get it.
People voted for this woman. Her kindness on display when they guy next to her feints on camera.
....the guy next to her feints on camera.
Ahhh, so it was a distraction tactic. I thought he had simply fainted but given they're politicians your explanation is far more likely! ![]()
Karl Jung said this about "the Shadow" (which is perhaps what is being projected onto the so-called mean or bad person) in one of his books:
"It is as evil as we are positive... the more desperately we try to be good and wonderful and perfect, the more the Shadow develops a definite will to be black and evil and destructive... The fact is that if one tries beyond one's capacity to be perfect, the Shadow descends to hell and becomes the devil. For it is just as sinful from the standpoint of nature and of truth to be above oneself as to be below oneself."
And from David Foster Wallace:
"(la) Naive people are, more or less by definition, unaware that they're naive. (lb) I was, in retrospect, naive."
It's not a sad, ridiculous or meaningless question at all. If your not sure about something it makes complete sense to ask questions.
If you've had people in your past not treat you so well, it sometimes takes concious thought about your relationship choices to not go down that road again of being treated badly.
Say to yourself and believe you should be treated better by others and you find yourself not getting involved with a***holes at all.
Kozzie and Gypsydrifter are on it too. And there can be other reasons of course.
My theory is evolution, we carry a lot of programing from much earlier times, even prehuman.
Back in the days when survival was very tough, a female's genes had better chance of survival if her children had the protection of the alpha male.
To keep the top spot an alpha male has to be a bit belligerent, and easily angered.
So this selects for an attraction to less than desirable mates now.
There are 2 possible ways to improve the situation, neither guaranteed!
1) Be aware of and gain control of your programing, there's a lot of baggage we've inherited, like the panic reaction that we are better off without.
Then with the intellect in control, you can be a bit more choosy in partners. It won't be easy, it's a matter of which course is the least painful.
2) If the partner isn't a deep down bad person, but also has lost control of their programming, if they can be made to realise how bad they are acting, and take responsibility for their actions, then there is professional anger counselling available.
But beware the old, "yes I'll do that tomorrow" trick, and tomorrow never comes.
Along the lines of what Decrepit said above, I read a book once called "The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee" when I was a lot younger and grappling with sexually and why ladies always seem to fall for the pricks. This book explained it. It's by Jarred Diamond. I know this guy comes up with a lot of kooky s*, but I think he's on the money with what he talks about in this book (apart from the UFO chapter).
Along the lines of what Decrepit said above, I read a book once called "The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee" when I was a lot younger and grappling with sexually and why ladies always seem to fall for the pricks. This book explained it. It's by Jarred Diamond. I know this guy comes up with a lot of kooky s*, but I think he's on the money with what he talks about in this book (apart from the UFO chapter).
Kooky? Surely not? Now I have to read it to figure out what you are referring to as kooky!
What was the UFO chapter? Maybe you can bring that up in Heavy Weather, where it will become fact.