Do I say this in jest ? Maybe not!
I hate feeling vulnerable and it's only getting worse.
Miners bashed in Mandurah
DANIEL MERCER, December 9, 2010, 9:53 am
Two men from the Eastern States who had been working in WA as miners were left with serious injuries after they were allegedly bashed by two men in Mandurah last night.
Sgt Gerry Cassidy said the men had been drinking at a number of local pubs when they were allegedly beaten in an unprovoked assault near the Silver Sands Tavern on Mandurah Terrace.
He said pair, who were mine workers visiting Mandurah for conference, had walked across the road from the tavern to a service station and were allegedly attacked when they returned with some food to a grassed area.
According to Sgt Cassidy, a 33-year-old man from Queensland was punched in the head by one of two men before his 44-year-old friend from Adelaide was allegedly bashed when he came to his aid.
He was allegedly knocked to the ground before the two attackers stomped on and kicked his head.
It is understood both men were taken by ambulance to the Peel Health Campus.
Sgt Cassidy said police arrested a 25-year-old Mandurah man and a 26-year-old Mount Hawthorn man nearby about an hour later after they were seen fleeing from the area.
They were charged with assault occasioning bodily harm and will appear in the Mandurah Magistrate's Court on January 7.
Mandurah motorist's windscreen 'speared'
DANIEL MERCER,December 9, 2010, 9:11 am
A 22-year-old woman narrowly missed being speared last night after a group of youths allegedly threw a metal stake at car in Mandurah.
Police spokesman Samuel Dinnison said officers from the Mandurah police station were called Mandurah Road in Dudley Park shortly before 10.30pm following reports a group of people had been hurling objects at passing cars.
He said one woman had been left "distraught" when a star picket pierced her windscreen and "appeared to have missed her by millimetres".
Another metal stake is also believed to have struck the top of the woman's car before bouncing off.
Mr Dinnison said police chased the alleged offenders and four youths had been taken into custody.
There are definitely some wacko's out and about.
But what the hell is with the 'allegedly' nonsense that reporters are obsessed with now?
allegedly threw a stake through a windscreen.. - it didn't sodding get there on it's own steam.
Do you think those youths got done for attempted murder or a stern letter home to their parents and no tv for a month?
We had a bunch of kids start a big fire on our street just recently which threatened a bunch of houses and a nursing home. How bored are they, or how bad is family life to do stuff like this for kicks?
Spot on pwee
and yet we still had social engineers in the paper the other day saying smacking kids harms them and teaches them violence is OK blah blah blah
For thousands of years it worked, but now we are so enlightened apparently it is not the go.
These little sh!ts got no discipline at home or school (suspension is paradise not punishment) and have to be caught and go to Court at least a few times before anything happens to them. How the hell are they supposed to learn that bad behaviour = consequences.
Introduce guns into the equation and then the bashing becomes a shooting.. not my idea of a solution.
It's niave to think only the good guys will be packing a shooter. Or that shooting someone in self defence will always be looked upon that way in court.
We are extremely lucky to live in a society where guns are rare and not every peanut with a frequent flyer card can pick them up at Kmart.
Lets keep it that way.
BTW - I have actually been held up at gun point (literally staring down the barrel of a sawn off rifle) and that doesn't make me any keener to see them in the hands of 'good citizens'. The less out there the better.
EDIT: Can't agree on the smacking (yes i have spanked my kids - but can count on one hand the number of times). Yes more discilpine is needed tho.
What is missing is discipline AND positive examples from the parents of these little snots.
Spanking or not they grow up witnessing their own parents acting with little or no self discipline or respect for anyone/anything. They soon follow in those thongsteps.. Spanking is not going to change that one iota IMO.
I have seen plenty of the worst parents out there dishing out plenty of wallop but providing a pizz poor example in the way they treat others and live their life.
A welt goes down in minutes. 
Watching your parent's behaviour lasts a life time. 
I think this is a problems that wont go away easy because no-one has the power to deal with it anymore. If you have children and try and disipline them they are told at school different numbers to call to to report abuse, even something as minor as saying NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Then when a child goes out and commits a crime they get a harsh talking to and sent home, it is no wonder these kids go out time and time again doing what they want because they dont have any accountability or punishment. The real problem is that when they grow up they pass on their twisted beliefs on to their kids and the cycle starts again.
Was very close to having an unprovoked attack last Friday night at Glendalough train station, mob of youths came up to me and tried to start a fight...
The main culprit had bloodied knuckles from previous fights that night 
Talked my way out of it but it was a very near thing.
Sad that this is how some kids get their jollies 
I agree kids dont need to be beaten to be disciplined, but the fact is there are alot of youth out there with no discipline at all who need some direction in life that wont include property destruction or harming others and if they do then they need to be held accountable.
The Squirrel and The Grasshopper
THE REST OF THE WORLD VERSION
The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.
Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.
THE END
________________________________________
AND NOW, THE AUSTRALIAN VERSION
The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.
Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.
A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.
The ABC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.
The Australian press informs people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so while others have plenty.
The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Housing Commission of Australia demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house.
The ABC, interrupting a cultural festival special from St Kilda with breaking news, broadcasts a multi cultural choir singing 'We Shall Overcome'.
Bill Shorten rants in an interview with Laurie Oakes that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his 'fair share' and increases the charge for squirrels to enter Melbourne city centre.
In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The squirrel's taxes are reassessed. He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders,
for the work he was doing on his home, and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work.
The grasshopper is provided with a Housing Commission house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrel's food is seized and re-distributed to the more needy members of society - in this case the grasshopper.
Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home.
The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Australia as they had to share their country of origin with mice.
On arrival they tried to blow up the airport because of Australians' apparent love of dogs.
The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempted bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody.
Initial moves to make then return them to their own country were abandoned because it was feared they would face death by the mice.
The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from people's credit cards.
A “60 Minutes” special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel's food, though spring is still months away, while the Housing Commission house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn't bothered to maintain it. He is shown to be taking drugs.
Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshopper's drug 'Illness'.
The cats seek recompense in the Australian courts for their treatment since arrival in Australia.
The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks. He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him.
Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery.
A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost $10 million and state the obvious, is set up.
Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for grasshoppers.
Legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased.
The asylum seeking cats are praised by the government for enriching Australia's multicultural diversity and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats.
The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose.
The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison.
They call for the resignation of a minister.
The cats are paid $1 million each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in Australia.
The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses, their taxes are increased to pay for law and order, and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.
THE END
From ggfs thread
All good and well
But the parents have already stuffed up!
So what do we do with the freaking idiots out there that are trying to kill us now..?
What kicks to the head,
Star picket through a window,
Bashing a person up with their own walking stick
until it breaks.
Is That Not attempted murder!?
To me it is.....
back when I was a boy ect ect ect......
What has this to do with guns / violence / law & order etc...
Well everything and nothing - what a message
http://www.wxpnews.com/VG9SO6/101207-Global-Development
or the posted link (if it works??)
www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250&winname=addthis&pub=flixxy&source=max-250&lng=en&s=gmail&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flixxy.com%2F200-countries-200-years-4-minutes.htm&title=200%20Countries%2C%20200%20Years%2C%204%20Minutes&ate=AT-flixxy/-/-/4d0075272afab2fc/1/4d00752aeb1a2441&uid=4d00752aeb1a2441&email_vars=CustomVariable%3DStatistics%2520come%2520to%2520life%2520when%2520Swedish%2520academic%2520superstar%2520Hans%2520Rosling%2520graphically%2520illustrates%2520global%2520development%2520over%2520the%2520last%2520200%2520years.&ui_cobrand=Flixxy.com&CXNID=2000001.5215456080540439074NXC&tt=0
Wow - what 200 years has seen.
Still the bottom of the chart is represented by ignorance/violence and poverty.
So it is not a long bow to draw to say We are in a transition time. A country (possibly China) will get fed up with liberal -ism - where the advances represented by the film clip are getting threatened (ie the majority are effected).
... and instigate a technical policing solution - the guilty until you prove you are innocent approach - you use technology to prove it was not you.
Then the opportunity of anonimity a city can provide to do anything to anyone with a fair chance of staying anonimous will rapidly disappear.
In the mean time - ahh the vexed issue of court rulings and community expectations......
I think our approach will change to a degree when 1) you fight - someone requires any service then you pay - for ambulance, police, hospital or do boot camp time of equivalent value. Then you get to go to court.
The police (firemen, ambo's etc) have a right to not be threatened with a fight or assault every time they go to work on the streets. Assault service crew - Do boot camp time then get to go to courts. (I recall a doco (Perth I think) where a policeman called to stop a fight outside a pub was king hit permanently injured (mobility issues / brain damage) and the man how did it was let off and the doco' showed the footage of who did it. I was in a state of disbelief and the community pays for this act of malicious bastardry).
A technical solution will pop-up. Soon I hope - in the mean time why do I feel the court rulings are often giving the community the bird??
One word "Mandurah"....bogans will always fight or cause trouble its in there blood....
18 years of age 2 years compulsory military service.....this is where they will learn discipline and respect.
Stop right now. We do not want to live in a society that has an entrenched culture of carrying concealed weapons for self protection. I own a few rifles (licenced) for vermin reduction. People are not vermin! I would happily forfeit my priviledge for a complete ban if the scales were tipped in favour of "the right to bear arms". More people are shot by family members whilst arriving home trying not to wake the household than have their lives saved by firepower. Crime does not appear to be reduced in heavily armed neighbourhoods, the crims just carry an increase in caliber of weapon. Out of interest the only time I have had a firearm pointed at my head was hitchhiking into New York State in the 1970's. A police squad car pulled over, the officers pointed a gun at my head and then explained that it was illegal to thumb a ride on the expressway and I would have to go back to the access ramp. Armed cops, armed thugs and armed vigilantes is not what we want. Maybe I am just an aged hippy so Peace sister.
