www.badmotorworks.com that's what about them.
But would you buy the bike over other bikes? Knowing that you'll be 98% of the time in traffic.
It weighs 270kg with fuel.
Hi FS
That's an interesting link about BMW. I didn't know BMW had an anti-movement.
I have decided to convert to dirt too. Next year. have pretty much made up my mind to abandon the KTM camp (2006 KTM 990SD) for BMW800F. I definitely need to do more research before buying.
Just something to think about though. BMW have had a frenzy of new designs. For decides, they had the boxer design and nothing else. Then all of a sudden (5 years ago I think), inline fours and twins appeared in their model range. Just remember, by the laws of engineering, a "Version 1.0.0" design is certainly going to have issues. A design that has been around many years, will have very few, since bad designs have already been revised. The CBR1000 and 600 motors for example have virtually remained unchanged since the early 90's and Honda (and other Jap co's) have progressed in small safe increments (which is a engineering strategy typical of Jap co's). BMW would not be immune to this engineering rule and so the bigger the jump, the higher the risk of technical issues.
If you want certainty, then yes, get a jap bike 
. When I got my KTM 4 years ago (ie: a "V1.0.0" design), I was happy to take on the technical risk of the new design. Luckily, I've had very few problems. However, this won't be the case for my next bike.
J
I've got a similar bike,this may be the new model,i don't know. I got a Yamaha TDM 900 2002 model as a road bike its brilliant. I ended up modding the **** out of it so now it's turbo, yeeehaaa
sharkbiscuit: My last bike was a K1300R and while the engine was awesome the bike leant to the right, had strange engine noise oh and crooked steering (steering later mostly resolved by ME).
Fark BMW. All the dealers are farkers and the quality is sh!t... go ahead and by your box of chocolates.
log man: I've always had a sweet spot for the TDM since my friend had the 850.
I like the Super Tenere, but it's a little flat until 4500 rpm then runs out of power at 6k... gets hot in Sydney weather (the radiator fan was on all the time)... apart from that it's well mannered and comfortable.
I think the biggest positive for me is that it's a Japanese bike, but it is a v1... that's why I'm asking here.
GypsyDrifter: Practicality would dictate I get an electric bicycle... this is a poser purchase with vague notions of adventurism.
met a cripple at the boarding house i once stayed at in Vic. Park. his leg/hip region was permanently damaged from motor-bike injury he had.
he can only walk/hobble now with aid of walking stick.
i asked him what happened.....driving along Shepparton Road a parked car pulled out smashing into his leg.
took something like 4 years to get compensation,around $300k from memory, he bought a house with it in Mt. Lawley.
trouble with motor-bikes no cage to protect you.
save up a bit more and buy a Honda Legend.
Here's an adventure report with an ST: www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=52625.0
It's a good read
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The problem with bikes is farking idiots in cars.
I'll let those who seek the safety of their cages enjoy Alzheimer's, stroke, heart attack, cerebral aneurysm, 
, punch to the head from an irate bikie with re-enforced knuckle protection.
PS: I've had 2 friends die in car accidents, and one was sitting in the back seat of the Jaguar for +4 hours in a really, really bad way.
I think I'll offer a low price and if they take it at least I get a good deal.
If they don't I'll get an electric bicycle or the Triumph Sand Racer.
One dead following motorcycle crash
The West Australian November 14, 2010, 8:57 am
Major Crash officers are seeking witnesses to a crash that claimed the life of a 65-year-old motorcyclist from Greenwood yesterday.
The man and his 54-year-old wife were riding a black Honda motorcycle east along Hepburn Avenue in Padbury about 5.30pm when it collided with a white Suburu hatch at the intersection of Hepburn Avenue and Gibson Avenue.
It is understood that the Suburu, which was travelling west along Hepburn Avenue, was turning right into Gibson Avenue at the time.
The motorcyclist died soon after in hospital.
His passenger remains in a critical condition in Royal Perth Hospital.
Freaking horrible...but what!
Black bike... white car...bike in the right...sun going down...stupid car did not see them....bike heading east..no sun in their eyes...
So very sorry for friends and family.
Most drivers these days don't give a hoot about hitting other cars or pedestrians.
What would anybody think would make the average today motorist be more considerate towards a motor cycle rider. Especially wimmen in 4WDs. Give a woman a 4WD and she will grow her own gonads.
Rule of the road is that unless otherwise signed, pedestrians have right of way, but who feels comfortable being a pedestrian these days??
petermac33's comment I feel was on the mark and there was no reference to any conspiracy theory, so why do some people HAVE to bag anything he posts.
Grow up numb nuts!
His point is totally relevant. I spent three weeks in an orthopaedic ward after sliding my car off the road at 65 mph, hitting a small tree and breaking the car in half. I was very lucky to survive. All I had to do was lie on a plywood mattress for the duration.
However 80% of the patients in the ward were there due to motorcycle accidents and they were the only ones with legs in plaster with steel pins through their knees and other body parts attached to traction weights etc. Not a pretty sight for the onlooker and worse for the one providing the picture.
Qualifyer:- I rode motor cycles for 10 years. BSA 650, Honda 250, Triumph 500, Kawasaki 900 Z1 and Yamaha XS1 650, the last being the best after I modified it.
Motor bikes are a great mode of transport as well as being a ton of fun to ride. I rode the Honda Sydney-Brisbane return once, the Triumph twice, the Kwaka Cairns to Tassie and back to Brissie, then from Darwin to Cairns then to Brisbane and the Yammy from Brisbane to Nowra.
Bikes are great for the highway (as long as you do not collect a cow or 'roo) but IMLO (in my learned opinion) verge on suicidal in big city traffic.
If the bike shakes your bootie, you should have it, but make sure you have something with four wheels for the daily work commute.
If you are single and all your rellies are dead, go for your life. If you have one or more people who love you, think about what it would do to them if you creamed yourself.
Gday fly ,
I have many years riding experience . I just sold my last weapon (CBR600RR).
Im not going to get into the logistics or statistics of motor cycle accidents because IMO its all BS.
So your looking for a touring bike I take it. Yamaha make great bikes and you couldnt go wrong buying that beast. Also nothing wrong with a Jap bike. The new ones are great and go well . The harder you ride em the better they go imo.
Good luck and keep the rubber side down!
Speaking of conspiracies, when I ride my bike I practice complete and utter paranoia at all times. Every car on the road is about to do something stupid.
think I will pay for a driver next year in saying that it does make getting around that place a bit easier.
I have experienced mechanical failure while riding, when the chain snapped, fractured pelvis and fractured skull, all happpened in the blink of an eye 
Nice bit of ova-kill. You said that you were only going to use it once a year?!?
Far out! I'd be swabbing that bike for traces of roids.
Noice looking piece of kit tho.
