I reckon 4 hours is a pretty big session without a break. Not accusing you mike, but I reckon people regularly over estimate how long they are out for.
These are good problems to have ....
How can you call that " intense "
I call it ULTRA SOFT !!!
I've kited with the Old Men in Sydney who are just getting warmed up after 6 hrs or 7 hrs in the surf at Wanda ... Then they head back to Botany bay for their cracker jack Big Air sessions...Now that's intense !
... By the way how's it going Moritz...haven't seen you on the Forum for an eternity.
This is too funny, and I think the bowl of cement here does apply.
For those who are in their thirties and complaining I find that funny too. I am almost 52 and do four hours regularly. I might do 2 hours straight, then get a drink of water, and head out again. I hate standing on the beach. The first 20 minutes are always the hardest as my feet cramp a little and then settle in. After that its on as long as there is wind and daylight and no other pressing business matters.
Stretching is the key. Both before and after. Do it at home before you leave. Even five minutes is enough for most people.
I agree 100 percent on the supplements described by the others. As I hit 50 it became apparent that my body needed those or I would be in a world of hurt in the knees and some of my finger joints. Last month I ran out of most of those supplements, and I was good for about 4 days, maybe a week. Then my knee started giving me hell, (left had acl tear and surgery 30+ years ago, right torn meniscus four years ago and surgery, and then last year torn medial) . I feel the medial problem a little when the joint is not lubricated. I went into town and stocked up on the goods and it took another two weeks before it would all settle down. I kite every day there is wind. And the way I see it, I have at least 30 more years of this in me. I figure my the time I hit my eighties my jumps will always be pillow soft landings.
Bottom line is, "Use it or lose it!"
Cement comes in several flavors.
So have none of you have had sessions that were so intense that you are completely smashed after a couple of hours or so?
If not then all the concrete pill callers in this thread need to take a dose of chopper and harden the F^%k up and do a really hardcore session.
Sure anyone can cruise around for hours. But I bet your not doing 4hrs of lenten style kiteloops or riding 40 knots in 5m swell and calling it easy!
Yes, but the body can only handle a couple of hours of those kind of stresses. It is the exhilaration that enables you to stay our for the mere two hours. Those sessions are different and you have to be so Aware the whole time.
First a foremost, a banana in the morning...potassium. Stops cramping, good kickstarter for the day.
Fishoil
magnesium
calcium and zinc
glucosamine with chondroitin
plenty of fresh garlic in the diet.
vit c
They all make a difference over a period of time, unlike a couple of ibuprophene that works straight away.... :)
Just to make mike feel better, 2 hours of powered up riding/ tricks is my averave limit... Love the soreness though. Last time I had a few 3 and 4 hour sessions in a go, I fked my back up for about 2 months of no kiting at all. I have to force myself to listen to my body now, and go in when I start getting tired/ stacking it every time I try something. I go out 3-5 times a week. Disclosure: I am a girl and I'm not ashamed of my stamina- its about quality not quantity!!! Haha so there.
Lol, classic! But as far as the edges go, not so far from the truth.
Maybe I should change my routine, still getting injured.
PM me Plummett with ya email, send ya something man.
Because there are no lactic acid effects.
Google lactic acid and read any of the articles you see. Here's one www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-does-lactic-acid-buil/
The pain is not caused by lactic acid. The pain is caused by general stress and strain and minor damage to the muscles. The pain goes away because your body adapts to the stresses and strains and the minor muscle damage is soon repaired.
Similarly, there is no evidence that stretching does anything to help prevent muscle damage or soreness.
Same goes for magic foods and supplements (unless it's EPO or human growth hormone)
Warming up effectively does help avoid injury.
All of this stuff is part of a myth coming from the natural human desire to be better at stuff and the wish that if we did "exactly the right special thing" we would get better.
If it were all true we would be able to do the thing and take the stuff and get exponentially better at whatever it we do. This is clearly not the case.
The reality is that a balanced diet, plenty of exercise and plenty of rest, doing something you enjoy doing, and focussed and committed practice makes you as good as you can be.
Short of actual injury most physical pain is simply your body's alarm bells being overly conservative. There is nothing wrong with you. You don't need treatment for everything that happens.
I think the real question is, Would you go again the next day?
I think thats a definite "yes".... we push thru it again and again....If the wind allows.
Knowing what to do and doing what you know, unfortunately are different.
I know:
I have to use sun screen on every part of the body that will be in the direct sun light;
I know I should have at least 10 minutes of stretching before and 10 minutes after each session
I know that every 1 hour at least I should come back, reapply sun screen, drink plenty of water, eat something, regain my breath 10-15 minutes
I know that when my session starts I have to take it step by step and get in the intense stuff after at least 30 minutes of cruisin, so the body can adjust.
HOWEVER, this is what I do:
Find a place away from other kiters or other beach goers really fast, change super fast while throwing away all my clothes, pretend I got enough sun screen, while trying to find the hose of the pump. Find the hose, prepare to inflate super fast. Unfortunately it doesn't work, of course I put the hose on the "deflate" way. Pump the kite in a record time. Grab the board. Can't find the keys to lock the car (**** it, it's Australia=it's safe, I am sure nobody will touch anything). Get the kite up in the air, and straight in the water. After 10 seconds the first jump. Then time for a jump with a kiteloop, then let's try that nose grab, and so on......after 4 hours (I actually record all my sessions), I am so trashed, I can't even be ****ed to wash my gear with fresh water. Next days=recovery.
It's because I love this sport so much and my passion for it it's crazy, I can't take my time to do the entire routine, I need to be kitting ASAP.
What a bell end.. Just people are too P.C to say it here on SB for fear of red thumbs.
Jeez
