JUst looked at updating my AKSA - and its now $125 to register WTF -
Last year it was $65 How the heck can something go up 100% in one year.
I then check their website -
NO update of the July11 agm or Profit and Loss -
But I checked the profit and loss for 2010 and they took in 45,000
which divided by $65 annual fees per person meant that only about 692 people were actually members -
So with 125 per person this year .... if you dont go to comps how may of you will rejoin ?????
They are saying that 65 of your membership fees goes to insurance and 30 goes to state assoc and 30 to national assoc
comments please - Iknow that there is an aksa section but if I pay my money I think we are owed an explantion of the jump in fees -
seems like you've already read the explanation concerning the rise in fees... what more do you want?
$125 still seems reasonable to me...
Been a member since 2007, listen to the vibe on the beaches, watch the forum's, have to say this season I WILL be without aksa ![]()
When the insurance premium rises from $15k to over $100k in one year a 100% increase in individual memberships is easily accounted for.
Those who where lucky enough (or sensible enough) to join before the end of the year were subsidised by AKSA reserve funds and the combined pro-rata effort of every state association which makes up AKSA.
Perhaps we will hear soon - either here or on the state & AKSA websites - what the outcome was of all state reps investigating options for this coming season.
Everyone should also be aware that your state & AKSA membership is now calendar year based. A full 12mths of cover from the day you sign up.
AND even at the increased rate its way cheaper than many other sports pay for the level of cover we get.
GO AKSA
is this a retailers post! ex pressie post! comittee post!
all of the above!!!!!!!!!!
i totally agree that this is cheaper than many sports but..................
bottom line, word on the beach is that people are losing the faith,
not my words, just passing on the vibe.
Same old whinge every year.
Try participating in any other sport where you are covered if you injure a bystander or another participant.
Soccer 400+
rugby 300+
dirt bike 400 +
If you want insurance and someone to protect your access to local beaches, join.
If you don't, don't bother. But don't complain when things go pear shaped and you need them.
Yeah, I agree BigwaveD.
IS CHEAP insurance.
Our hang gliding membership is over $300 more if you want to fly and several locations where Councils require $ 20 m public liability.
More peeps join, the cheaper it becomes, and visa versa.
Its just been very cheep for quite a long time, $65 was only enough as long as no claims were made,
I remember some guys actually questioned the insurance value due to the fact that no claims had been made????, well there you have it, moved into perspective.
Hope the WAKSA /AKSA committee gets all the support it needs to continue the fantastic job its done in the last year.
Hey guys- it's actually good to see this discussion out there....good that people are taking an interest in it and looking at what they are getting for their money, I see it as good value but can also see the other side of the coin in that it has almost doubled in one year which is substantial.
Maybe those who are a little negative on the beach could share their ideas ? The only way an association can represent its members is if they give it feedback- constructive criticism and genuine ideas are the only way forward !
Just for the record with some councils the only reason we are allowed to use the beaches it is because of a relationship between the association and the council...the membership and the liability insurance are a big factor in keeping them onside.
NSWKBA used to have a free shirt with the membership but since it went through AKSA from last year it doesn't inlude that now.
Maybe a free shirt might soften the blow for some???
Have you not noticed that ALL insurances wether it be house or car or sport has gone up. It's still reasonably priced and i don't see a problem with paying the extra. Don't bother with the policy and if you take out a Jo public or cause damage while kiting then don't bother posting on here complaining that your being sued for damages.
I think Ozoned was referring to the fact that the membership is now sent direct from AKSA....I like the t shirt idea- when I first joined there was a free tshirt from AKSA- maybe something to look at ?- I still wear mine, it's good promotion for the national body and it shows who cares....
the last thing i need is another stupid tshirt
If they can afford a tshirt - then take off 25$ and make it $99
AGM documents are up on AKSA website now under documents section, I was waiting for comments from the attendees before I finalised them.
Let me know if you have any comments [email protected]
Cheers
Gavin
AKSA Public Officer
This is why I would never do any sort of public office. Too many bloody wingers on the sidelines complaining that they no longer get something for nothing,
Like BigWaveDave said, same old whinge.
I asume that those in office are doing the best they can for very little thanks, because if they don't do it nobody else will. (Poisoned Challis).
I think any interested person will note that after a year of disasters that all insurances will be on the rise along with a lot of other things.
As a final note, it's on offer, not compulsory, if you don't want it, you are free to run the risk of loosing everything you have worked for for the last 20 years. You choose.
$125.00 to stop me being reduced to nothing sounds pretty cheap to me.
The choice is yours to join.If the 2 main reasons for joining AKSA is 1insurance -OH LOSE ALL YOUR ASSETS,and 2 KEEP ACCESS to your beach by involving them[is AKSA A SUPERHERO] if you took that out of the hardsell what have AKSA left to recruit other than passion for the sport.There is alot of bluff involved,creating fear for peace of mind. 1 Some different scenarios, the degree of liability by both parties of an accident relates to the compo. payout as well as suffering,loss of income etc. the victim may be at fault to a degree,if its a council beach and lacks signage or isn,t patrolled properly .the council is included,ALOT.If your uninsured it will go through the court system and take 3 years, represent yourself and appeal another 2 years .Does the offender sue his instructor for bad advice,if equipment failure,does he sue the manufacturer. 2 I honestly fail to see how AKSA can save beach access if it IT CANT BE DONE INHOUSE BY LOCALS.If kiting is a public nuisance and public danger anywhere its banned. On SYDNEY HARBOUR, JETSKIS were banned 5 YEARS ago.NO GOVERNING body saved it .Total ban.If you need signatures for a petition TO SAVE ACCESS go to a malL and get anyone to sign.
Has anyone ever tried to claim on this insurance? Seems like someone, somewhere is completely taking the p1ss.....How many beaches were saved by AKSA last year, any not in WA, if any at all....????
To keep fees down, why couldnt there be an excess per claim, payable by the member, whom the claim is against. Is this possible with this type of policy.
Without have further details on the payouts made so far, maybe people would be a little reluctant, to offer liability to the third party, by saying to the injured or damaged party.
" yeah sorry mate, dont worry about it i have insurance, you can claim against my insurer."
And admit full liability in the process. If each member new they had to pay an excess per claim, then maybe they maybe a little more self guarded, at the time of the incident, and hopefully keep claim costs lower.
My thoughts anyway in keeping premiums lower.
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Im out of the picture now but I think the new policy is $10M personal $20M for official events ? May even be a straight $20M ???
Pretty much guarantee you its not $5M but even a $5M claim would have a pretty significant impact on your average kiter !!!
But hey if you can afford to risk it then dont join. Just X ur fingers that enough do to enable the various KSA crews around the country to do everything else they do - like save your beaches etc.