Good idea, no **** I had three seperate dudes ask me if i was going down to pinnas, want to do a down winder? Didn't even know them - hey I'm from the south west don't trust no strangers.
yeh would work - you can have that stretch of coastline though - i'm done with that many crew.
sure does
Its a large coastline and a great deal of it is not used by kiters - or anyone to come to that. Surely kiters can find new spots
Having to register will only add cost!!! or you will have people not paying.
I kite at pinners and some times (quite often) its a complete nightmare - the worst offenders are the guys that think they can kite but have no thought for others (and they're not as good as they think). Myself I would kite somewhere else if I was more able - still learning so the though of others that could help if it all goes to ****e is a reassuring thought (even though I can self rescue etc)
I went to clayton beach the other day (walking the dog) and that looked idea - not many beach users and wide beaches, but perhaps its not kited for a reason.
This sport is only going to grow, once you have a try it gets in to your blood so I suspect not many people "have a go" and decide its not for them. Every one thinks it looks cool - wish I could do that - so its only going to get more popular.
too much mescaline.
you are cursed with regular summer windy days and good flatwater spots to learn which means you are doomed to have lots of beginners who don't give up .You also have quite a number of operators actively promoting the sport as a result.
.WA was pretty slow to catch on compared to the east but has gone way past us now .I noticed that the growth in the daylight saving years in Perth was massive in comparison to prior to it .You now have a critcial mass as a result (the ol 100th monkey story ,where when there is only or a few no one much notices or cares until you get to a population point of people doing it where suddenly everone wants to do it),I don't think that the canning of daylight saving will deter noobies now that the critical mass has been achieved .It will be interesting to see what transpires regulation wise .It seems that the current situation is creating a lot of pressure and that this pressure will keep increasing.
You aint seen nothin yet boys and girls!!
Just wait for "SUP KITING"!!!!!!
ei; downwinders in under 10knots!!!!!!!
We have good/bad habit of making
good/bad ideas into profits!!
Just ask mr.Salles from French1
Good luck with that can of vipers!
Or this will become the norm
and natural attrition makes its
moves!!!
Off to the shop to stock up on
spare line sets and double edge knives!!
Good Luck!!!![}:)][}:)][}:)]
to start to solve this problem, you (perth kiters, waksa, seabreeze) should use a standard problem solving technique, like the continuous improvement loop.
you can't solve anything by saying "too much", "euros", "tools", "scary numbers"
A) quick survey
1) get as much real data as possible on the problem.
- have someone at every beach every day counting kiters coming to the beach. and report on seabreeze: "today at 3pm there was 27kiters at this spot, there was 23knots. not much people on the beach, and there was15kiters at 6pm"
2) take the data and make useful graphs, stats. (on average on a windy saturday, there are 20kiters a scarbs)
3) analyse the data
4) publish the data.
5) act, change something
6) do it again
this real data would also be very useful for waksa to use with councils.
B) detailled survey
you could also do a survey of kiters on the beach (because not everyone is on seabreeze.) I don't think people would mind answering a few short questions after kiting (not before)
- where do you live, where are you from?
- which spots do you most often go to kite?
- why do you go to these beaches?
- what do you look for in a spot?
- which days of the week do you kite?
- how long have you been kiting?
- which kite school did you learn at?
- if you are from overseas, how long do you intend to stay in WA, how long do you stay in perth?
- how did you find this beach?
- which other beaches have you heard of?
C) published infos
I think it's quite stupid to avoid naming spots on seabreeze, because they are everywhere on the net. google "safety bay kite", and you get over a million answers.
all the spots are named and on maps in weather forecasts websites, seabreeze or other (and kiters are quite well known to use these very often)
even if overseas kiters didn't know where the spots are exactly it wouldn't keep them from coming when they see photos, videos of kiting and weather data. they would just come and find out where to kite when they would be in WA.
I think some kiters (mostly newbies) go to crowded spots because they are like sheep, they follow the crowd
when they started they saw lots of kiters there, so they tought if there are a lot of people, it must be a good place to kite, so they kept coming there. and they never bothered testing and finding other good spots.
how many people always kite on the beach near the schools they took lessons from? first because they feel safer because they are near the school and after because they get to know the people kiting here and belong to a group
the solution is to spread a maximum of infos on every spots in WA. so kiters spread on different spots.
if you tell one of your travelling friend that kiting up north (or down south) is way better and everything they need to know, it may means you will have 3 less kiters on perth beaches the day after. and they tell their friends, and next year you will have 10 less kiters on metro beaches
perth beaches will always be more crowded you can't avoid the fact that there are about 1.7 million peoples living there. when you think of the percentage of people kiting in perth its so few. 1% of the population would be 17 000 local kiters. when you think how many people there is in perth who could become kiters, 20 or 30 kiters at scarbs is really nothing
when you think about 3 million passengers coming from overseas and 7.5million people arriving from other states arriving at perth airport annually, 20 or 30 kiters at scarbs is really nothing
the only thing that keep a good spot from being crowded is ease of access, I don't think lizard island is ever going to be crowded
hope this help
