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Mullaloo Briefing Session tonight

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Created by WAKSA > 9 months ago, 14 Sep 2010
Weta
WA, 893 posts
15 Sep 2010 8:18PM
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I did my lessons at Mullaloo in January 2009 with Kiteboarding Perth which is Rob Gannon's Business.

My instructor was Tony and the whole focus of the 6 hours of tutelage i received was safety, safety and more safety.

Both Rob & Tony have been more than happy to offer advice since i finished my lessons and i still pester poor Tony with questions about gear & Travels.

They are totally professional kiters who care about the sport & the safety of other beach users.

tgladman
WA, 500 posts
15 Sep 2010 8:32PM
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seafever17 said...

Flux said...
hope the outcome of this is a positive one because I'm not going to any other beach regardless of the decision and I really don't think it fair to be personally put into that position.



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Grommit
WA, 34 posts
15 Sep 2010 9:13PM
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little o said...

THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you don't have anything good to say please keep it to yourself.




I agree there is so much crap spoken in these forums that some people forget this is a kiteboarding forum and not a place to have a go at people when they are asking for help

the walks
WA, 448 posts
15 Sep 2010 9:24PM
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everyones opinion counts, especially those who actually kite at mullaz as their not just talking it up, now everyone together please and and no more bickering...

AKSonline
WA, 925 posts
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15 Sep 2010 10:16PM
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Hi Guys,

I think that the councillors, mayor and CEO did a pretty good job sifting through the crap at last nights meeting and there was a fair bit of it going around, in other topics as well as our own, they were onto those that weren't straight up and seemed to have BS radar going. I feel they had a genuine interest in the kiting issue and were all very attentive throughout all deputations, questions and summaries.

We must place our trust in these councilors, they are the elected representatives of the community and you don't get that support by being a dill. You could see their direction in thinking by the questions they were asking. I feel confident that the councillors will make the right decision and there is enough wisdom in the members to sort out a decision which will work for all.

The MSLSC was unbiased, they presented only facts and didn't hype anything more than what they had. They were honest and professional. When they were asked which option they preferred from a safety/patrol point of view, their answer was of course always going to be in favour of a ban. It is the easier when there are less things to worry about. I think if the question asked had been, "which do you think would be the fairest and most reasonable option?", it would have been 1 or 3.

The thing is that they must look at the problem the same way we do as kite schools. We/they have to decide on "risk management" not risk elimination. You cannot eliminate all risky parts of life, it just wouldn't be worth living.

DM.

lemming
WA, 75 posts
15 Sep 2010 11:46PM
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the walks said...

Sounds like the night went well, good on you all,
Good luck with the self/policing on the beach with no kite school.
Have'nt managed to catch up with Rob lately but it sounds like he's been shat on from a great height......
Sorry if this affends anyone.


A tad unfair Tony. Naturally it was only right to point out that the council's issues with kitesurfing has to be considered separately both in terms of recreational kiting and in terms of a kite school business. I for one stood up for the presence of a kite surfing school on Mullaloo in response to the unsubstantiated comments provided regarding Kite Boarding Perth.

Rob has rigourous safety and risk management procedures in place as you of course are aware and therefore Rob has a different arguement/case to discuss with the council.

One thing which is for certain is that if kitesurfing is banned from the beach, then there will definately be no kitesurfing school. Hopefully if we can first maintain kite surfing on Mullaloo Beach, then we can focus on ensuring that KBP can continue to operate as well.

Catch up with you soon mate ;-)

Dave

general_dude
WA, 150 posts
16 Sep 2010 10:48PM
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Hi WAKSA, Mullaloo Users Group, AKS and others,

Thanks heaps for your efforts.

I could not attend but sent a personal email to my counciler (who, when I asked her position ahead of the recent election, stated without being led that she thought "an outright ban would be unfair' - that is why she got my vote!).

I hope fairness and sanity win over small minded fear.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
17 Sep 2010 10:31AM
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RayQ said...

Just consider that the guy from the opposition was quoting and misquoting from the WAKSA website, so he may he is writing stuff on Seabreeze as well, was that you GET FUNKY?


Er??

No Ray.. perhaps your tinfoil hat has shrunk?

I don't really kite at Mullaloo and am not about to throw a spanner in the works. Same for my local area around Scarbs. I have my view (which may differ from most? - Well definately from the louder 'only my opinion/water usage matters' types anyway ) but am certainly not going to force the issue or lobby cranky councilors who have an even narrower view (if that's poss) than some kiters

I am well and truly over the insular attitudes of a number of kiters and will be taking a back seat and see how things play out for the Scarbs sandbox.

EDIT: If youre kiters are gonna get bent and start flaming about a diff opinions - then maybe that is where a lot of the friction with other users eminates? No ability to empathise with other coast users' desires.

BTW - the actions and responsibility displayed by the Mullaz area group has been great IMO and I hope they get a sensible, workable result that improves things for all users including kiters.

Best of luck to the Mullaz kiters and I hope Option 2 gets buried ASAP.

RayQ
WA, 638 posts
17 Sep 2010 10:46AM
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Just kidding mate, I believe your heart is on the right side of the sport and your contributions are really funny, well sometimes.
I didn't want to associate you with the anti kite surfing community group as they should really be called, but they do use the forum to gather ammunition in their attack

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
17 Sep 2010 10:48AM
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Fair bump - play on

You may well be right about those in opposition using SB, it's hard to tell trolls from good guys some times.



FYI - my posts are always funny

WAKSA
WA, 813 posts
17 Sep 2010 11:23AM
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Crew

City of Joondalup council will be making their decision about kiting @ Mullaloo beach on Tuesday 21st September 2010. WAKSA and Mullaloo Kiter User Group is lobbying hard to ensure that access remains open at Mullaloo beach and that the dreaded “Option 2” does not get up. Our advice to Council has been that our preferred outcome would be Option 3, but we have also indicated to Council that as a fallback, Option 1 would be acceptable.

WAKSA has committed to work with the City of Joondalup, the Mullaloo Surf Club and all other stakeholders to find a way forward to ensure that the beach stays open for kiters and address any concerns they may have. We have provided CoJ with significant details about how access can be maintained and managed. We hope that our ideas are being given significant, positive consideration by the Council and we will continue to lobby and work with Joondalup up until Tuesday night to get the right outcome.

The Council meeting will be held on Tuesday 21st Sept 2010 commencing @ 7.00pm, Joondalup Civic Centre Boas Avenue Joondalup.

We had a great turn out at the Briefing Session this week – we need an even bigger turn out next Tuesday night. Council needs to see how much is at stake for kiters.

NickT
WA, 1094 posts
17 Sep 2010 11:51AM
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Good on you to WAKSA and MUGS, aside from liability insurance this is why more kiters should become WAKSA members. Support in these situations.

dbabicwa
WA, 809 posts
17 Sep 2010 11:58AM
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Will pop in this time! Looks easterly tomorrow, let's put something on Peli Pt. and Melville for others who don't read this to come in?

buzingfridge
WA, 147 posts
18 Sep 2010 11:04PM
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Bump..... keep this thread alive...... KITEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME.
Perth kiters lets support the cause and not allow Mullaloo to be banned!! Who knows whos beach will be next !!!!




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