Just curious and some brain fodder, apart from the Kona wave range and sailable SUPs does anyone make a 130+ litre wave board? Also what style of board replaced the Wave/Slalom concept of the late '80s and early '90s eg. wave rails, flatter mid rocker with wave nose rocker...am I describing a Freeride or Freestyle board?
I don't know of a 130+ltr wave board and I don't know why you'd want one. You could get an Evo at 100ltrs, a RRD Twin at 99ltrs, an Exocet Exo-Wave at 105ltrs and I think OES does a 120ltr. Some Northern Beaches guys in Sydney have large custom wave boards for the super light winds.
As for your other question - I would assume the Freestyle Waves have covered off exactly what you're talking about.
You looking for a light wind or fat boys waveboard?
I have a 105ltr Exocet ExoWave and it is excellent. It actually turns really well and there's heaps of float as its 245 x 63 http://www.surfingsports.com/exocet_exowave.asp. The reason I got it was that I was weighing in at 95kgs and had no hope in the lighter wind wavesailing comps. I also really enjoy wavesailing in light winds with nice smooth waves.
My concern with the FSW option is that they are exactly what they say they are - not 100% pure waveboards. I did have a 100ltr RRD FSW which was great until you really wanted to crank a bottom turn. I found it lost it's edge a lot so you ended up sailing very much off the back foot.
At 100kgs the Exocet should be fine and the Evo shouldn't be too bad either.
Problem is when you loose some weight, the boards feel huge!
sboardcraz, if I knew what it was i'd consider it (still catching up on 20 years of progress!?).![]()
dumb Ar** question, but if you where 87-90 kgs when wet, what would be the smallest board you would consider to still be sure of having a floater, and not a sinker
(sounds like we are discussing something else)
Seems like the bigger the board, the more the $$$??
edit that last post, SBC I found about it sorry, too scary for me just yet. Good luck on selling though.....
NUDE is playing with the idea of a light wind fish concept at the moment, twin fin boards around 95 to 105 litre full wave board, wide tail with enough float to get you out to the waves..
Im over 100kg. Got a 98 OES twin and 105 Exocet wave. Another selfless plug but at the right price you can have the exocet. OES make awesome big guy boards up to 120litre THAT work.
I think Exocet are the best boards on the market you can buy, i had a quick ride of one a few week ends ago. It felt so stable in the really gusty wind and it was only a 106 litre.
maybe a 113L fanatic freewave? quite wide and high nose rocker... although I've ridden a 1.5m wave also with a fanatic eagle 113L :) but it's hard
Now I'm really confused, what happened to the round about calculation's I learnt from this forum about a year ago of 1kg = 1 litre of volume? Therefore including rig I should be looking at a minimum of around 115-120 litres? Besides, my next board has to be multipurpose just like my old f'glass board was but with plenty of float this time around.
One thing I can tell you I'm still a long way from drawing any squiggles on a wave face! Sheesh end of last summer was my first venture in 20 years to sail the surf and it was a disaster and that was in 2' waves on a Kona One! It's been too long between drinks and I don't care if my next board is not the perfect wave tool as I'm not having any pretenses of carving over 3' waves for a long while still. I just want to get out there on something a little less bouyant than a KO, turns well and planes quick.
However, the idea of longboard wavesailing is still very appealing, once I get back in the surf I know I'll want to jump it (loved it back then) when the wind comes up and this is not the longboard's fortè especially in flat landings, something I seemed to do a lot of back then but my board could take it so I didn't care.
Exocet (thanks Remi) seem to have added some new and interesting wave longboards from what I researched a while back. Ideal as they are, $2500 or even half that is still way over my head. I don't want to pay lots of money for something that I know I'll smash to bits in my first year back in the surf! Pity these boards didn't exist 5 or more years ago otherwise they'll be plentiful in the used market and at my budget.
Anyway I'm only tyre kicking at the moment, at least this exercise has targetted certain models that could be suitable for future consideration. I'm not convinced sub and a little over 120 litres is going to be enough at this stage of my sailing. I need a board that gives me a wider wind range, hence me thinking around the 130-145 litre class. Once I get sick of it I'll go smaller and who knows when that will be.
I think I'm making sense.
Thanks for your feedback peoples, it's good info.
If you want to ride in waves, as opposed to riding waves, then a FSW works fine, and they are great boards for getting back into the zone.
I used a JP FSW for this, and it worked very well. No, not a great wave board, but definitely a great board for getting out there and bashing through onshore slop.
It's a forum, where everyone's pecs are buff, all the SO's have a perfect rack and everyone carves mast high glass on a regular basis.
Nosinka
I think you need to decide what you want to do. The right volume for waves (albeit small ones and not carving them up) is a bit different to ideal freeride size for you.
You won't get a turny board in 130-140L - you'll get a freeride. Lets say if you are 80kg and live in geraldton then you can easily get a 90 - 100L FSW and use it for waves and freeride.
However from what you are saying you don't get that much wind and want to maximise sailing time
If you just want to sail in small waves and jump then a freeride will be fine but you need to be aware it will restrict your ability to learn to waveride later on.
I'd say go for the freeride but get something with a lot of vee so it will handle chop well and go rail to rail a bit better. Read lots of reviews in the magazines and pick the turniest (not necessarily earliest planing) freeride board and use the volume to make up for the lack of early planing compared to the other boards.
Or dunno what your budget is but maybe a $800 130L freeride and a $600 100L FSW for the windy days, instead of a $1500 board that is 1 y/o??? Shapes have not changed that much in the last 4-5 years contrary to what the manufacturers may tell you....
I've got a massive 130ish light wind custom wave board, built like the proverbial brick sh house.
I have seriously lost count of the number of awesome days I've had on that thing when it's too light for everyone else...
Corros, Spot X, Gnaraloo, the list goes on, I'll be the only one out there having a ball, everyone else is sulking on the beach.
Go for it!!!