i'm going to go out on a limb and include mushy surf whether it's backside or frontside as bump and jump.
wave sailing to me is when the the waves are clearly peeling and can handle more than a couple of bottom turns. i also includes jumps in wavesailing. ![]()
and the sailor heading out has right of way... ![]()
Trousers, here's Naish's longboard loop which looks like a custom Mistral Race board at 2:49 http://www.stableroad.com/videos/heartandsoulmoves.htm what a sight!
Sounds like B&J is just jumping like in the '80s with an addition of more aerials. Flatwater, ocean or waves it didn't matter, if it swelled jump it! It seems in modern sailing the repertoire has broadened with more moves thrown in.
But I'm still impressed with seeing big air and/or distance and if one lands one still planing it looks way too cool! I think this Phil McGain old video still has cred, who needs modern gear to go fast and get air!
www.stableroad.com/videos/angleofattackbigair.htm
Mark, dunno why you can't see it (shrugs). The whole collection is here;
www.facebook.com/stableroad
See 7 for Phil McGain
43 for the longboard loop
+ heaps and heaps of others.
And here's more big air old school style with Mr. Naish on a slalom board...check out his air time!
I used to be a big fan of Bump N Jump gear many years ago, and the term has re-surfaced a few time over the years..
Basicaly what it is goes like this..
As far as boards they were about 85 to 95 litre so you could jump them with control and land without breaking your legs because of to much volume under you, As far as shape they had a slalom based rocker, useally flat to V in the tail (most slalom boards of the time where mostly flat right through) the BJ boards had softer rails for more control in the choppy stuff, usually about 55 to 58 wide and a bit of width in the tail to make them jump well in flat water off chop, length was what ever most old style boards where running, a prime example of a BJ board was the Fanatic Bee 94, the red ones..these things where jumping machines, Fanatic also made other BJ boards in about 96 they where the Hawk but they called them a freecarve.
As far as sails there has been one that has been made 100% for this task for many years the Sailworks Hucker, built to get huge air and be stable while your up there, last year Severne released the Mojo to be a pure BJ sail.. what they are is camless sails running about 6 battens, the foil runs most of the way up the sail where as 99% of every other sail only has most of it's foil at the bottom, this foil shape acts like a wing and once you are in the air the just glide for ages.. really are a hell of alot of fun the jump, have used both... both sails are super powerful for there size..
As far as what Bump n Jump is, basically it's guys that blast around flat water spots looking for anything they can get air off and stay up there as long as possible and bust out some cool gybes at either end of there runs.. not really interested in going as fast as possible unless it means more air time..
Its a lost part of windsurfing pushed out by freeride gear, there isn't a company that makes proper BJ boards at the moment which is a shame as it is a S**T load of fun when the chop starts to jack up, or something like the Rotto Ferry cruzes past..
yer but it's a FREESTYLE WAVE board.. try doing a flakka or wave ride a Fanatic Bee or Hawk... completely different... and no i don't ride Fanatics they where just good boards and BJ's...
i think you guys are confusing "Freeride" with "Bump&Jump"
the bee and the hawk were "freeride" boards like the carve is a "freeride" board.
i'd agree with markaus that FSW is bump and jump. in qld their are a lot of bump and jump sailors. the majoriy are using FSW board for good wind and Freestyle boards for lighter winds the rest are using real world wave boards.
My main board is a JP FSW 92. When I bought it I was looking for a B&J board suitable for 15-30 knots. I do not do freestyle or wave sailing myself. I just like blasting about fast and easy jumping from chop. I consider the FSW to be more of a B&J board myself, but maybe that is because I am not into freestyle of waves.
Whatever the board is meant to be, it suits my purpose perfectly. Very lively under foot and releases easy for great jumping. Sometimes bay chop can have you heading into tightly spaced chop head on, and the livliness can be a bit grating in these conditions!! Easy to gybe tight or open gybes and in chop. Very fast for racing when I need it (> 30 knots in tough chop with freeride sail). Gets going with my 6.2 in about 12-15knots (but a struggle upwind), but is in its element in 20-25 with a 5.0. Perfect board for open bay sailing which to me is what B&J is about.
IMHO, the FSW boards are the best match to B&J.
yep, well that's a hotly debated point that the wavesailing fraternity has been pointing to for a long time now.
pozo is a classic example. it's got waves so i'd err on the wave side of things but when you watch vids what do you see..... bump and jump.
if you took a fat 160 Lt JP funster beginners board, 6m rig, your choice of wind, small bay chop and someone with sufficient skill (not me), could you expect to be able to get it to jump even just a little?
no loops, just skip across?