Why would they stop coming?
$400-00 a week, accommodation, food, cigarettes, medical, dental, internet with free laptop supplied, taken to shopping trips, the zoo and free phone cards to call all their mates over there to come to the land of the big suckers (us)! To top it a gov. **** scared to tell them to go back! Did I mention free legal aid. Wish as a citizen I could get half of that!
Yeah let's all start a boat people thread again and call those who are anti - illegal immigration or anti - Islamisation of Australia stupid, rednecks, xenophobic, blah blah 
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These stories justify the positions of the realistic aussies and make the loony left wingers look even more out of touch
Stupid Xenophobic Rednecks 
I'm not for boat people or anti-anti-illegal-immigration or whatever, but some people say really dumb stuff that just has to be answered.
(talking about previous threads here)
These stories justify the positions of the realistic aussies
You can't have it both ways here. Which position, no islam or no boat people?
Of course no one wants an islamic dictatorship (or ANY islamic law) here like Iran (except maybe a few dumb angry young islamic men). BUT IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. This backs up how ****ful it would be to live under that. But if you agree that then you also have to agree that we ought to have some sympathy for human beings trying to escape that hell hole. How you you feel if you could get lashed for saying "Juliar" in this forum?
Wish as a citizen I could get half of that!
You can it's called the dole, medicare,legal aid etc. Giving them an old laptop and internet is cheap entertainment and communications that would otherwise cost more. I'm not sure we should be paying for ciggies however the context is that they are used as a reward to doing good things. Not like they're handing out cartons of the things. Considering 2 cartons costs about 1.4 million these days they are only getting 1cm of a ciggie each
I'll tell you all a true story of why I feel compelled to answer some of these threads and provide a moderate view.
When I was 15 I went off alone to see the world. It was kind of like a school 'student exchange' only some of the people that my family had taken in previously said 'hey come stay with us, go to school here, etc.' So off I went by myself with some people here and there to take me in.
One of the places I stayed was a friend of a friend of my mothers. We didn't know them from a bar of soap but they said hey you're a friend of xxx, if you're in france come stay with us in Paris for a week.
I arrived and they had the smallest apartment you've ever seen. 2 tiny rooms and a laundry/toilet/shower that was about 2m x 1m, you had to shower with 1 leg either side of the toilet. They already had 2 parents, a 10yr old kid and a 1yr old.
They looked after me really well and I saw lots of Paris with their son, and played nintendo with him at night. He helped me with French and I helped his English.
They invited me back, on the way back home to Oz to come a week earlier than planned and stay again. They were cooking me breakfast and lunch but after a while I noticed they weren't eating - why? Ramadan. I hadn't known they were muslim till then. They were still cooking me full meals.
They had planned for me to go see something in Paris with their son, and I said I couldn't. Why? I didn't want to say but I had no money left. Seriously had about 50 bucks left to get home on. They pressed on me about $60 oz which felt like heaps at the time. I kept saying no. In the end they said look, our religion says that to help someone in need is the best thing we can do in the world. It will make us really happy. Please please take it.
So I did, all went well, etc.
Moral is, total strangers took me in to their already overcrowded home and treated me like family at a time when I really needed it. This is the 95% of muslims that you don't see on TV. Things aren't black n white.
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. If you want to see Oz in a decade then have a look at Britain (or more like Bitain) and Europe now.
I agree with some of what you said but the above...
Absolute total and utter sh?t mate, scaremongering rubbish
England is a completly different scenario, european migration has done more damage to the UK than the previous intakes from countries that they once dominated, and now have to live with the fruits of thier labour
Boat people etc count for a miniscule amount migration legal or otherwise
When are you clowns gonna stop watching today tonight and listening to alan bludy jones and have a look for the truth yourself, you obviously can use a keyboard, search through and find out some facts and stop belching up poxy sensationalist media
this is such a generational debate.
my parents came here from holland in 63. worked freakin hard, copped all sorts of crap in the 60s and 70s.
same with the vietnamese
same with the greeks & italians in the 80s
same as the chinese in the 90s
same with poms (well thats different )
now in the 21ss C its the arabs.
im not so sure much has changed , but maybe it just takes a while to get used to a new culture. us ausies are often afraid of changs.
There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.
Islam is not a religion. It is a complete social and political ideology.
It is spelled out in the first 12 minutes of this vid.
Australia Great Southern Land.....Godwana.....even our Aboriginals walked here
over a then landbridge....so we are all immmigrants, we all come here from
elswhere, then made a go of it. Who knows where or how th Kiwi's evolved
[}:)] 
well i dont like to descriminate. I think all religous extremists are shxt.
Except maybee bhuddists and possibly krishna's. Dont think they have killed anyone or started any wars? Militant christians are just as intolerent as the KKK (also clased as a religion). Granted militant Islamists are the most dangerous and intolerent of all.
Also I dont really trust people who dont drink.
can i say I don't descriminate if i dont like the rice eating countries? probably not
Hey I saw a piccie of that cutiepie little ladypup today - sod flogging her with those barbaric thingamajiggies - I might make myself available to administer a jolly good spanking with my .... or my ..... could also ....... mmmmmmmmm ladypuppies - howwwwllllll
It's amazing how accurate the film turned out to be... She was in a movie about the plight of modern men and women in a country with a medieval theocratic government, and what does the government do? puts her in gaol and whips her.. Dog Dammit!..
^^ hey Barn
Ummm, somethign like 70% of the USA congress identify as Christian, many of those very strongly so.
I don't see the American Govt circumcising their girls, stoning women to death for daring to be raped, or beating people for death for possessing an opposing religion's texts.
I don't see any such things in countries where Buddist or Hindu Govt's rule, so no it is not about when religious people are in power.
Feel free to take the p!ss about religion, but you can't say that Islam is just like any other.
