How do we stop these MONGREL fuel companies RIPPING us off. Obviously, there is no Government with the backbone to stand up to them, (it could be because for every cent the SCUMMY fuel companies raise their price the Govt cops 30% or more).
We have seen the price creep, a couple of years ago $1.15 - $1.20 was the norm (still to high) when oil was $120.00 a barrel, then the DIRTBAGS started towards $1.30 at the peak, now that's the norm and $1.40 plus is the peak. In 6 months the norm will be $1.40 - $1.50 and the peak will be higher. These SHIFTY characters are making BILLIONS off of us.
I have heard the theories, don't buy one day of the week, don't buy from BP and they will start to drop prices. How do we get across the board support (Australia wide) to do what the Pollies are to gutless to do?
Sell my V8 
@ $100 per tank Im over it.
Anyone wanna buy an 04 SS 5.7 6 speed manual 
only driven to church on Sundays by my Mum 
The Donald is the solution to all your problems.
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-04-18/the-donald-brandishes-presidential-credentials/2614004
Fuel companies say: pump rices must go up because of the dollar and the value of a barrel of oil.
NRMA mapped the value of the AUD, a barrel of oil and pump prices and found four things:
- When the AUD goes down, pump prices go up
- When the price of a barrel of oil goes up, pump prices go up
- When pump prices come down, it has nothing to do with the value of AUD and the value of a barrel of oil
- The spread between pump prices and the value of AUD & barrel of oil has only ever increased over time.
What does it all mean? We are being gouged something chronic, and as usual the ACCC is doing sod all about it
Buy an electric car! Maybe one day they will come in OZ! not an useless Hybride a full electric one, lot of them are getting built in china Chery is the brand, they sell for less than $25,000 for a 4 doors car capable of 120km/h with a +- 150 km range, could recharge at work during the day and would cost very little to run as servicing would be minimum.
But maybe I am dreaming as our jelly fish, no back bone pollies surely would not upset BP and Shell!
Convert to LPG. As ridiculous as it sounds the government gave me (a not underpriveliged taxpayer) a $2500 rebate for an LPG conversion on my tiny little gas guzzling Landcruiser. With a special deal being offered by the installers it actually cost me nothing. Now I pump out the same CO as before but at 1/3 the price to my hip pocket. Thats your taxes at work
There is no conspiracy with the price of oil, the Aussie dollar is high against the US but we dont import oil from them.
The price of oil is going to stay high (just my guess),..... lots of new car owners in India and China and further instability in the middle east.http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/marketwatch.htm
www.ipa.org.au/library/publication/1210915497_document_facts_-_petrol_for_distribution.pdf
The Govt benefits from high prices as their taxes are higher. The cost of extraction and production have not gone up.
Trouble with electric cars is that electricity prices will also skyrocket. If the competition (oil) puts their prices up then electricity suppliers can put their price up too.
Bringing back independant retailers would help.
Fuel price comparison from around the world
US$/L (95 RON)↓ ...Country/Territory↓
$0.02 ...Venezuela
$0.16 ...Saudi Arabia (Riyadh)
$0.17 ...Libya
$0.22 ...Qatar (Doha)
$0.22 ...Turkmenistan
$0.22 ...Kuwait
$0.27 ...Bahrain (Manama)
$0.31 ...Egypt (Cairo)
$0.31 ...Oman
$0.38 ...Iraq
$0.39 ...Brunei
$0.41 ...Algeria
$0.44 ...Nigeria (Lagos)
$0.48 ...UAE
$0.53 ...Ecuador
$0.54 ...Bolivia
$0.59 ...Indonesia
$0.60 ...Burma
$0.60 ...Guyana
$0.60 ...Malaysia
$0.64 ...Guatemala
$0.64 ...Trinidad and Tobago
$0.66 ...Iran
$0.69 ...Mexico (Mexico City)
$0.73 ...Yemen
$0.75 ...Azerbaijan
$0.77 ...Mozambique
$0.77 ...North Korea
$0.83 ...Panama
$0.84 ...Antigua and Barbuda
$0.85 ...El Salvador
$0.87 ...Honduras
$0.89 ...Haiti
$0.91 ...Pakistan
$0.92 ...Argentina
$0.93 ...Thailand
$0.94 ...Mauritania
$0.94 ...Russia (Moscow)
$0.94 ...Sierra Leone
$0.95 ...China
$0.95 ...Belize
$0.95 ...Peru (Lima)
$0.95 ...Philippines (Cebu)
$0.96 ...Nicaragua
$0.99 ...Jordan
$0.99 ...Tunisia
$1.00 ...Taiwan
$1.00 ...St Lucia
$1.00 ...United States
$1.01 ...Grenada
$1.03 ...Cayman Islands
$1.03 ...Vietnam
$1.04 ...Dominican Republic
$1.05 ...South Africa
$1.07 ...Belarus
$1.07 ...Costa Rica
$1.07 ...Liberia
$1.07 ...Uzbekistan
$1.09 ...Colombia
$1.10 ...Aruba
$1.13 ...Curacao
$1.16 ...Kenya
$1.19 ...Morocco
$1.24 ...Ukraine
$1.29 ...Albania
$1.30 ...Canada
$1.30 ...India
$1.30 ...Singapore
$1.32 ...Moldova
$1.34 ...Bonaire
$1.36 ...Chile
$1.37 ...Japan
$1.40 ...Cape Verde
$1.42 ...Macedonia
$1.43 ...Canary Islands - Spain (tax free)
$1.45 ...South Korea
$1.46 ...Sri Lanka
$1.50 ...Australia
$1.52 ...Uruguay (Montevideo)
$1.53 ...Brazil
$1.61 ...Malta
$1.61 ...Zambia
$1.64 ...Andorra
$1.66 ...Bosnia and Herzegovina
$1.68 ...Samnaun - duty free in Switzerland
$1.71 ...Serbia
$1.74 ...Bulgaria
$1.76 ...New Zealand
$1.80 ...Bermuda
$1.80 ...Estonia
$1.80 ...Latvia
$1.81 ...Poland
$1.81 ...Cyprus
$1.84 ...Romania (Bucharest)
$1.85 ...Iceland
$1.86 ...Slovenia
$1.87 ...Croatia
$1.87 ...Monaco
$1.88 ...Luxembourg
$1.92 ...Lithuania
$1.92 ...Spain
$1.93 ...Montenegro
$1.95 ...Austria (Wien)
$1.97 ...A?ores (Portugal)
$2.01 ...Czech Rep
$2.03 ...Switzerland
$2.04 ...Palestine (West Bank)
$2.09 ...Madeira (Portugal)
$2.13 ...Eritrea
$2.13 ...Hong Kong
$2.14 ...Hungary
$2.15 ...Ireland
$2.19 ...Italy
$2.19 ...United Kingdom
$2.20 ...Israel
$2.20 ...Slovakia
$2.25 ...Portugal
$2.28 ...France
$2.29 ...Greece
$2.30 ...Finland
$2.30 ...Germany
$2.30 ...Sweden
$2.33 ...Belgium
$2.36 ...Denmark
$2.52 ...Netherlands
$2.60 ...Norway
$2.77 ...Turkey (Istanbul)
Source
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing
Price factors influencing Australian fuel costs
www.raa.com.au/page.aspx?TerID=1139
Fuel Tax rates from around the world
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_tax
Be grateful you don't live in Europe
The main difference in pricing around the world is subsidization and tax
Actions you can take
Register for your local fuel watch website and get fuel prices sent through, then you can see when the companies are taking the piss with their pricing (like yesterday ULP 139.9 Today 151.1)
Get a more economic car
I admit I drive a company hack and rack up around 70,000km, when you do that kinda distance year fuel costs get noted.
Our fleet was Xtrails which already are a fairly economical car in comparison to the commodores and falcons rep-mobiles we previously had (no V8's) getting 10-11L/100km.
My last vehicle change I went for the Diesel X trail which gets on average 7.4L/100km
Even with diesel being more expensive this still equates to a saving PA of around $2000
So in answer to the original statement, register with Feulwatch www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/
and plan your fill ups so you miss the spikes which happen
other than that
Get rid of your penis replacement and get a car with better economy
LPG is the way to go but LPG prices are still a scam. I once heard Australian LPG is sold to China for about one cent a litre. Meanwhile it costs Australians about 70 cents a litre.
All new cars sold in Australia should be running on LPG. If Mercedes, Toyota or whoever didn't want to do it, too bad.
Hey Karl,
Is the Federal govt. subsidy on LPG ending this year? Or have they changed their mind on that as well.
If it is, it will be about another 11 cents per litre. Happens from July on. Still way cheaper than petrol.
Did you know that the NSW state govt has had to alter its plans to remove Regular Unleaded 91 from sale in servo's and replace it with the Ethanol 91 unleaded as there is a shortage of Ethanol?
Ah governments......you gotta laugh. 
Realistically, a more economical car is probably the way forward.
Fuel prices started getting really expensive in the UK about a decade ago.
Assuming for the sake of argument that a "normal" exchange rate between the pound and AUD is approx GBP1=AUD2 and that reflects the cost of living, fuel has been above AUD2.00 a litre for most of the last ten years (sometimes substantially above that). Currently it's about GBP1.35 a litre.
What has happened in that time is that the cars on the roads have become substantially more economical. More people buy more economical cars, which drives the car companies to make yet more economical cars.
My father drives a MY2000 Skoda Octavia Wagon tdi. It's done 190,000 miles, and if you're driving it normally it gives 5l/100km (56 mpg). If you're really being careful you can get 4.4l/100km (64mpg) in real world driving.
This is a small family car that's a decade old and been treated pretty badly.
What we're about to see in Australia is a same revolution of vehicle type and economy. It still amazes me that the likes of Mazda haven't caught on to the fact that there is very shortly going to be a market for small diesel cars, despite the fact that Mazda UK sell boat-loads of Mazda2 diesels and have been for ages.
I first noticed this phenomenon whilst talking to a young sales exec. He was talking about the car he was about to buy. Ten years ago he would have gone out and bought a BMW, no questions asked. He was in the process of buying a small diesel instead.
I know diesel is more expensive, and the cars are usually more expensive.
However, soon enough it's going to start to make sense, particularly because the diesel car is going to be sooo much easier to sell second hand in a couple of years time.
^^^^and a bicycle for the short trips.
If you don't need to tow a trailer or access areas that require 4WD for work or recreation, what is the need for a V8 or a large 4WD vehicle?
Car manufacturers have targeted market segments very cleverly in that they persuade/convince Australians that that they need to own these types of vehicles to:
a) Survive possible collisions; and,
b) project a certain image or status.
If more people drove 1.8 to 2.6 litre vehicles, diesel or petrol, do you think the oil companies would raise their prices to compensate for reduced demand?
Lets not forget that the Australian economy relies very heavily on road transport, so the oil companies are reaping big $ from road transport.
@ $100 per tank Im over it. only driven to church on Sundays by my Mum
@ $100 per tank Im over it. only driven to church on Sundays by my Mum
The original question i hoped to inspire feedback on was "how do we combat getting RIPPED OFF by the fuel companies and the Government" without sacrificing comfort and size of car. Is there a way or do we just roll over and pay whatever they decide to charge.
With the price cycling we can plainly see these THEIVES are making lots and lots of dollars even at the "cheap" prices at the lower end of the cycle.
@ $100 per tank Im over it.
@ $100 per tank Im over it.
Scooters are underpowered and often lure the riders into a false sense of security.
They don't have the acceleration/stopping ability of a motorbike and are, I think, more dangerous than riding a motorcycle on the road or a bicycle on cyclepaths or the road. Yes, they are economical, but they don't have the advantages of a motorbike or the advantages of a bicycle. They are kind of what I would call a hybrid of the disadvantages of motorbikes or bicycles.
