I think if somebody is intent on killing other people, they will by whatever means possible. If he had not access to guns then i think he would of possibly used explosives or maybe gas. It seems he was intent on killing numerous people, regardless of age. Its possible this event was pre planned and not a spur of the moment action. Wether he had guns or not, i think people would of still died somehow.
What is the point of keeping guns at home?
Create more public shooting outlets that everybody could go and shoot at will for a small fee everything he wants. But he could not take a weapon to the street.
Get even compulsory training if needed for country security for all men, women , kids and who ether ...
crap
that remains me North Korea already...
There are three things that people shouldn't have (even if do not use) at home:
-kids porn on their computer
-guns
-drugs
- and WMD
Easy like that.
What the hypocrisy where you people ask for rights for murderous weapon for every stupid freak on the street then refuse to use for this few selected to protect us (police) all from this freaks .
Public cry when policemen shoot, cry when even chase a bandit in the car, cry when even use a teaser...
Anyway further safety of any country do not depend on amount of fire-power that citizens keep at wardrobe !!
If Chinese want to invade Australia even one day 5 Gatling guns for every Aussie doesn't help at all .
Am on a business trip in the US now, big news here of course.
I just love to see the pro-gun people on TV. They're so angry about their "right to bear arms and kill". You can see it in their eyes - just wanna kill. Something wrong with those wackos...
Every single military plan in history has taken into account the ability of the military, and then the populous. Hitler disarmed the civilian population as fast as he could - I wonder why?
The Projectionist's Nightmare
This is the projectionist's nightmare:
A bird finds it's way into the cinema,
finds the beam, flies down it,
smashes into a scene depicting a garden,
a sunset, and two people being nice to each other.
Real blood, real intestines, slither down
the likeness of a tree.
'This is no good,' screams the audience,
'This is not what we came to see.'
Brian Patten
You are right Mark, but I can't see farmers rifle as a weapon but as ordinary tool.
Miner has dynamite at work because this is his job, doctor has drugs, lumberjack has a chainsaw. Just right tool in right place.
Even my Med Dr friend collector with full stock weapons arsenal present completely different cattle of fish to the freak on the high with cut off shot gun.
Even if in US half of their people are drug dealers and gangsters killing only themselves that is wrong also because there are presented by a state with such opportunity for such life style.
Nobody is born killer but environment could create monster of everybody in right time right place and condition.
Good on you Mark that you have such high self assessment, but on on this world at least 10 % of population have more or less serious psychiatric problems.
Then all our cold calculations does't make any sense because there is no logic behind their behaviour and no predictabilities.
Fortunately there are only two red buttons on this world to blow this planet.
But if you mass product and give everybody one with clear warning that world cease to exist
I bet
in first five seconds at least half a million people of the 8 billions will press it firmly.
Pretty hard to feel any sympathy for the yanks from me.
Gun sales went up 45% in the US of A straight after this clown shoots up a cinema,
Not the brightest bunch on the planet for sure.
W
Interesting note:
William S Burroughs, counter culture guru, drug culture dude etc.
Loved guns, he never left home without his .38
I beleive he and Hunter S Thompson loved to get blasted, then go blasting.
America F*&^^ Yeah.
All these guns in the US and no-one shot the dude to prevent further injury or death???
No point having a armoury full of firearms ready for the next zombie up-rising or apocalypse if they are not carrying at all times and ready for urban warfare without warning.
Sounds like a weak excuse that they need firearms to defend your freedom, in a country with a ridiculously high gun ownership already no-one stepped up to the plate.
^^^ I'd surmise it is because you are not allowed to carry in the cinema.
Bit like the school and uni shootings - not allowed to carry a firearm in a Federal institution over there so the offender knows that nobody will shoot back.
I can't think of a mass shooting in an area where people are allowed to carry firearms for self defence.
That's what happens when you take them off the good people (or specify good people can't take them certain places) and not take them off the bad people. Once there is so mnay guns in a place like the USA it may as well be a free-for-all for the responsible people.
There has been a couple of campaigns by post office workers and teachers (both Federal land) in the states that allow concealed carry so they can take them to work but they won't change the federal legislation
Maybe Beagle Buddy can clarify some of this for us- but this is how I understand it,
There are many areas in the USA that permit the concealed carrying of handguns to those who are licenced to do so.
Usually, to get a CC licence, you have to be approved by your local police, state police, and state govt.
You are also required to be trained to a necessary standard to qualify for concealed carry.
These are general "rule of thumb" comments- as in the USA each state has its own laws and regulations- and even many local counties, cities and municipalities have thier own.
In an ideal world- there would be uniform laws and regulations throughout the USA- or at least reciprocal recognition between the states in the USA (we cant even get that here in Australia-so dont expect it in the USA in a hurry)
I understand that the majority of states now have some form of reciprocal recognition- but not all.
Generally- areas where concealed carry is legal- violent crime is way lower than areas that prohibit firearms.
A quick example- Chicago and Washington D.C. are pretty much no-gun areas, but have the highest rates of death from firearms in the country.
Many federal govt. offices are no-gun areas- like post offices- but where do you think the term "going postal" came from? The people inside were sitting ducks when someone with evil intent walked in with firearms knowing that no one would shoot back.
It needs confirming- but I understand that many cinemas are no-gun areas, as are some schools and colleges.
There is always huge amounts of publicity when a crim goes on a shooting spree, (and rightly so) but practically none when an intended victim takes the initiative and shoots back stopping the offender.
Remember years ago when New York City was a no-gun area, a young bloke was being mugged on a train and managed to shoot his attackers- he was the one charged and sued!
stephen.
It sounds like a personal arms race is the only solution. M.A.D. Ha ha ha ha ah ha hahahaahaaa!!!
In Japan even the police don't have guns and oooh looky, they have one of if not the lowest number of gun deaths in the world.
It's harder to kill someone if you don't have an assault rifle.
