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Lano to Wedge downwinder, interested?

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Created by Underoath > 9 months ago, 2 Dec 2012
Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
3 Dec 2012 1:10AM
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Hey guys/girls.

If anyone is interested in a Lanno to Wedge downwiner, just send me an inbox message and we let can you know what's going down.

Always great having an awesome session and meeting new crew.
We had 5 in total last run, atm we have 7 keen for the run next weekend.

We will start from Lanno then head up the coast ending at Wedge Island, keep in mind total kiting is probably close to 50kms and takes 3.5 hours to complete.

Heaps of outer reefs, flat water & beachies.

Naturally, due to the distance and remoteness of the location it would be advisable if you are a competent kiter.

PM for details.

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
3 Dec 2012 10:18AM
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We have 9 atm.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
3 Dec 2012 11:18AM
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Saturday or Sunday?

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
3 Dec 2012 1:22PM
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Looking at Sunday atm. Subject to change.

Try make the final call by Thursday.

What day is good for you?

Weta
WA, 893 posts
3 Dec 2012 11:29AM
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Saturday wind permitting.

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
3 Dec 2012 4:16PM
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Weta said...
Saturday wind permitting.


Saturday is looking more popular over Sunday atm.

11 kiters keen atm.

Allready looking like a killer convoy.

Weta
WA, 893 posts
3 Dec 2012 2:54PM
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Cool looking to stay in Lano Saturday Nite i don't fancy the 2 hour drive home after a 3.5 hour DW would also imagine i'll be pretty dehydrated so a few quite coldies wont go amiss

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
3 Dec 2012 3:11PM
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Weta said...
Cool looking to stay in Lano Saturday Nite i don't fancy the 2 hour drive home after a 3.5 hour DW would also imagine i'll be pretty dehydrated so a few quite coldies wont go amiss


don't dress like a nancy otherwise you might cop a late night schlacking from weta , who has even been known to abuse himself once passed out

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
3 Dec 2012 7:33PM
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I might be tempted if it's Sunday if I can get back to Lancelin in time after a family thing for brunch in Perth.

Mark _australia
WA, 23706 posts
3 Dec 2012 9:22PM
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Who will be driving on the beach in case somebody needs help?
The bombing range section was impassable last week.

AndyHansen
WA, 278 posts
3 Dec 2012 9:49PM
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I'll bring a mobile with, not sure what the coverage is like along the way though...

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
3 Dec 2012 11:58PM
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Mark _australia said...
Who will be driving on the beach in case somebody needs help?
The bombing range section was impassable last week.




No ones driving along the beach.



Does that mean you won't be joining us Mark?

Akwa
WA, 255 posts
3 Dec 2012 9:59PM
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Is there any sort of help on hand for when things go pear shaped?
I'm considering it! i'll let you know by thursday.

also is this a 3.5 hour ride non stop? I assume there will there be breaks at certain beaches?

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
4 Dec 2012 12:09AM
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We didnt know how long it was going to take on our first run. So we just went for it.

The adventure and adrenalin keeps you going.

We took a backpack with a pump, tape, sun cream ect. As noted, we will take telecommunications this time.

It's a long trip but your legs are fine, you don't feel like you have been kiting for 3 hours.

I guess because it's down wind its more relaxing than keeping ground all day.

I recon we could organize a break 2 hours into it, a bit of a rest.

Any other input would be appreciated. Thank you.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
3 Dec 2012 10:12PM
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Underoath said...

Any other input would be appreciated. Thank you.


Please dont pump up in the park like some of the downwinder crew do every year.

Akwa
WA, 255 posts
3 Dec 2012 10:18PM
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Underoath said...
We didnt know how long it was going to take on our first run. So we just went for it.

The adventure and adrenalin keeps you going.

We took a backpack with a pump, tape, sun cream ect. As noted, we will take telecommunications this time.

It's a long trip but your legs are fine, you don't feel like you have been kiting for 3 hours.

I guess because it's down wind its more relaxing than keeping ground all day.

I recon we could organize a break 2 hours into it, a bit of a rest.

Any other input would be appreciated. Thank you.


I guess a break would be nice. Drink some water, take a breather, stretch the legs.

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
4 Dec 2012 12:20AM
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Yeah. This old windsurfer told us off last time. He was pretty cool about it. No harm done.

fver
WA, 453 posts
3 Dec 2012 10:39PM
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11 kiters? Hehe. That sounds like a notable risk of a drama or two on the way... I suggest to be clear about a contingency plan.

Enjoy! (the downwinder, not the walk)

Fred



KitersElbow
WA, 78 posts
4 Dec 2012 12:45PM
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Can't do Saturday, would be keen for a Sunday run though.

Akwa
WA, 255 posts
4 Dec 2012 1:46PM
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Any idea on which day it is yet then? Both days look good wind wise... I'm available for both days but have a X-mas party on friday night so I would like to plan what I'm doing through the weekend. I might have to hold of on the cold ones on friday if I'm going to go to Lancelin the next day.

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
4 Dec 2012 2:31PM
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Underoath said...

Any other input would be appreciated. Thank you.


1) Back up plan in case it goes to shizen half way;
2) Back up plan in case # 1 doesn't go to plan;
3) Consider PFD's if you're going a fair way out/off shore;
4) Consider flares if you're going a fair way out/off shore;
5) VHF radios (marine/waterproof) to communicate amongst yourselves
6) Have some sort of shore based support
7) Let crew know your plans & back up plans.....
8) See 1 above

I know some SB crew might think that some of these suggestions are over the top, but for an expedition like this, the 5P's come into mind:
Preparation Prevents P1ss Poor Performance.

All the best, sounds like a great DW - I'd be there if it was another weekend.

PS: photos or it didn't happen....

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
4 Dec 2012 6:44PM
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You better come next time Juddy.

16 interested kiters.....

Weta
WA, 893 posts
4 Dec 2012 5:17PM
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Juddy said...
Underoath said...

Any other input would be appreciated. Thank you.


1) Back up plan in case it goes to shizen half way;
2) Back up plan in case # 1 doesn't go to plan;
3) Consider PFD's if you're going a fair way out/off shore;
4) Consider flares if you're going a fair way out/off shore;
5) VHF radios (marine/waterproof) to communicate amongst yourselves
6) Have some sort of shore based support
7) Let crew know your plans & back up plans.....
8) See 1 above

I know some SB crew might think that some of these suggestions are over the top, but for an expedition like this, the 5P's come into mind:
Preparation Prevents P1ss Poor Performance.

All the best, sounds like a great DW - I'd be there if it was another weekend.

PS: photos or it didn't happen....


9) Make sure transport at end of DW has fully stocked Engel

Jonopark
WA, 400 posts
4 Dec 2012 5:55PM
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WOW, fair crowd now! Just to a quick mention that kitesurfwa takes no responsibility for any injuries/long walks/etc. This was originally a few of the local kitesurfwa crews typical lano mission but now seems like an organised event. THERE IS NO PLANNING, LET ALONE BACKUP PLANS!!!! Enjoy at your own risk, and your planning is THE ONLY PLANNING.

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
4 Dec 2012 8:18PM
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Juddy said...
Underoath said...

Any other input would be appreciated. Thank you.


1) Back up plan in case it goes to shizen half way;
2) Back up plan in case # 1 doesn't go to plan;
3) Consider PFD's if you're going a fair way out/off shore;
4) Consider flares if you're going a fair way out/off shore;
5) VHF radios (marine/waterproof) to communicate amongst yourselves
6) Have some sort of shore based support
7) Let crew know your plans & back up plans.....
8) See 1 above

I know some SB crew might think that some of these suggestions are over the top, but for an expedition like this, the 5P's come into mind:
Preparation Prevents P1ss Poor Performance.

All the best, sounds like a great DW - I'd be there if it was another weekend.

PS: photos or it didn't happen....


4) Revised - don't 'consider' - TAKE flares - you're going to be in some very remote areas - if it hits the fan, flares will help people find you. Red/orange marine smoke flares are about $16 per flare....

9) Insert new item - take an EPRIB. Yes, I'm serious. Again, if it hits the fan & you're stuck half way, letting the authorities now where you are precisely is 'fairly' important.

10) Insert new item Let Lano Sea Rescue know (maybe also the Wedge Island Progress Assoc?)...and then call/contact them to say you're all ok upon arrival @ Wedge....

It's the 5P's here boys - Prepare, prepare, prepare....cause if something goes wrong, it's better to have the bases covered....

Weta
WA, 893 posts
4 Dec 2012 9:34PM
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Juddy i appreciate your concern and you have raised good sound safety points, you have also probably scared the bejesus out of anyone not completely competent enough to do this DW which is a good thing.

In a straight line this is the same distance as Leighton to Scarbs the major difference is its a very isolated stretch of coastline with nobody along it. In the event something goes wrong assistance will take time.

I will have a 4wd at wedge so if anyone does need to be picked up i can come back down the beach and get you but this will of course take time.

Pfd's i will be wearing one, i propose we have a sweep and if any of you guys have flares and an epirb then bring them along.

Check all your gear you dont want a failure. This is definitely not for anyone that isn't a confident kiter with experience.

izymiester
WA, 325 posts
4 Dec 2012 10:33PM
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Okay boys and girls! Listen hard!

1) if you can go upwind on flat water your not going to just windsurf 50km in swell.

2) **** hits the fan, your mum can't help you this time

3) FLARES , smoke will stick low to water in windy conditions so worth 2 cents of **** all , night reds are probably better.

4) EPIRB , you would probably want to jam it up your rectum to distract yourself from the GWS circling you for the last 2 hours while the sea rescue remembers how to put the engine in reverse.

5) YOUR MUM CAN'T HELP YOU!

6) LAND BASED CREW! Worth **** all when your kite is continuously looping out of control 500m offshore and your leg is sliced open.

7) SAYING " I WISH I HAD A CORONA RIGHT NOW" won't fix the mess your in!

8) ONLY GO 80% at it since any broken bones ,, dislocations or broken lines will put you out of action and its SURVIVAL out there.

9) life jackets are GAY but will help you stay afloat long enough for mr Bitey to enjoy live food.

10) GO HOME SAFE!!

salt
VIC, 617 posts
5 Dec 2012 1:43AM
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I'm interested in what the fuss is about. Post a map (i'm in vic)

Akwa
WA, 255 posts
4 Dec 2012 10:55PM
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izymiester said...
Okay boys and girls! Listen hard!

1) if you can go upwind on flat water your not going to just windsurf 50km in swell.

2) **** hits the fan, your mum can't help you this time

3) FLARES , smoke will stick low to water in windy conditions so worth 2 cents of **** all , night reds are probably better.

4) EPIRB , you would probably want to jam it up your rectum to distract yourself from the GWS circling you for the last 2 hours while the sea rescue remembers how to put the engine in reverse.

5) YOUR MUM CAN'T HELP YOU!

6) LAND BASED CREW! Worth **** all when your kite is continuously looping out of control 500m offshore and your leg is sliced open.

7) SAYING " I WISH I HAD A CORONA RIGHT NOW" won't fix the mess your in!

8) ONLY GO 80% at it since any broken bones ,, dislocations or broken lines will put you out of action and its SURVIVAL out there.

9) life jackets are GAY but will help you stay afloat long enough for mr Bitey to enjoy live food.

10) GO HOME SAFE!!


Thank you Captain Bringdown!

James
WA, 549 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:30PM
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Akwa said...
Thank you Captain Bringdown!


I gave Izy a green thumb, I thought his post was funny. Been talking about doing this with Weta since last season. Can't say, yay or nay at this stage, but hope you boys have fun. If you have to overcome every single objection, the run won't happen. Is a restricted radio operators ticket still required for a VHF radio ? J

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:35PM
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Weta said...
Juddy i appreciate your concern and you have raised good sound safety points, you have also probably scared the bejesus out of anyone not completely competent enough to do this DW which is a good thing.

In a straight line this is the same distance as Leighton to Scarbs the major difference is its a very isolated stretch of coastline with nobody along it. In the event something goes wrong assistance will take time.

I will have a 4wd at wedge so if anyone does need to be picked up i can come back down the beach and get you but this will of course take time.

Pfd's i will be wearing one, i propose we have a sweep and if any of you guys have flares and an epirb then bring them along.

Check all your gear you dont want a failure. This is definitely not for anyone that isn't a confident kiter with experience.


Weta,

Leighton to Scarbs is about 15k's in a straight line; Lancelin to Wedge is approx 26k's straight line.

My goal isn't to scare competent kiters but to highlight the remoteness of the DW - if something goes pear shaped, it's not like one can walk up to West Coast H'way, call their mum & go home to Cottesloe....

Picture an absolute, worst case scenario: "someone" ends up in the coroner's court explaining what they did or didn't do sufficiently after a (worst case) death, or serious injury to a participant...certainly, individual risk is an issue, but it's all about minimising that risk IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be very keen to do this run, but not without a degree of forethought & planning, and knowing the kiting abilities of those I'm on the water with. I'd hate to hear on the Saturday night news something has gone pear shaped & not thrown some ideas out there for crew to think about re: safety.

Possibly insufficient planning/distance/remote location...it's got the hallmarks of trouble. Call me a wowser if you must, but after organising some similarly long distance, remote DW's in the past, planning is vital to minimise risk for participants.

Good luck to all the crew doing it - enjoy the run, stay safe, look after everyone, & remember, it didn't happen without pics up here on Saturday night....



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