There seems to be some confusion lately from overseas kiters...
Some clarification:
Let's start by examining the most basic definition of racism—the dictionary meaning. According to the American Heritage College Dictionary, racism has two meanings. Firstly, racism is, “The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.” Secondly, racism is, “Discrimination or prejudice based on race.”
There are a lot of REALLY STUPID GENERALISATIONS from people on this site about travellers from certain countries, but this does not make them racist.
And lastly:
To all visitors from overseas, PLEASE don't think that ALL Australians are unwelcoming from the vibe you get on this site. I think what most of them are trying to say (pretty badly mostly) is just to respect local customs and observe the way the kiters operate at their local, and everything will be cool :)
If people from Europe stopped being the main instigators of sh!t kiting etiquette at crowded Australian spots then maybe we wouldn't have such an issue on this site ![]()
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. Cause and effect people.
On a serious note, I don't think anyone on here really hates "Euros", after all (as pointed out above) most of us are Euros and to be honest unless you're an Aboriginal your definitely some sort of blow-in!
I don't care where someone is from, I give everybody a chance before making a judgement. As should everyone else.
I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally ![]()
Seriously though, this is cause and effect. It's not right but it's the way the world works. If you find that a small portion of italian/african/euros/muslims/etc spit in your face when they walk past you, eventually you'll turn away whenever one of them walks past you without knowing if they were one of the bad eggs. It's not racism, it's human nature, you react to the circumstances you live in and you adapt. Call it what you what, it won't change and banning it from the forum won't change the way people talk at local kitespots. If Euros (or any other nationality) are misbehaving, or continue to do so, it will continue to be a talking point. People aren't going to sit there saying "hey, that guy did a short tack, but he's a euro so I won't bring it up in case it's racism".
Unfortunately it also doesn't help much ranting about anyone here, no matter who they are. I suggest you get onto some of the overseas forums and warn them that because of the behaviour of a few, it's affecting the perception of kiting tourists as a whole and that localism may become more prevalent (and potentially violent) if tourists fail to follow local guidelines. Put the guidelines up on local websites (WAKSA, AKSA etc) and maybe a couple of them getting a fist full of knuckles may be a suitable outcome where only those guilty parties get it and they can take their experiences back to wherever the never learnt manners and warn their fellow travellers that a lack of manners won't be tolerated.
Stop with all this talk of Violence.
Give the sport up it it isn't fun for you
just walk away and kite some where else.
Ive kited all over the world and only have seen this talk here.
Saffer......
Athol..... Would that be dutch?.... South African?
I thnk its funny a Saffer would take a fully local stance in Australia, when you call yourself a saffer?? Hey dude South Africa to Perth used to be called the chicken run (oops) or am I being racist or Xenophobic? Im so confused....
All I know that its funny when you ask a Dutch South African to repeat after me,....... "Can I buy you some ice cream."
So talking about racism, Who out ther is proud of calling themselves Australian after walking around Kuta beach?? Im disgusted by my "Aussie" brothers??
Im of european decent and have a european partner so I reserve the right (even more so) to hang sh1t on pesky euros!
Its like african americans have the right to use the n word
Hell I even lived in europe for 5 years. Used to hear poms bagging aussies a lot in London. Some frenchies in the alps would say a few things behind our backs too..
Jeez, you (other) euros need to grow thicker skin. Euro bashing is not racism, not even xenophobic.. just a seasonal sport. Get over yourselves
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American ignorant vision of the world...
I'm a foreigner, I have been here for almost 2 years now and I'm a Pinna local now, chatting with all on the beach, getting involved with everyone. I have seen all kind of stupid from all over the world and some from Oz too.
I just think people from overseas are just more apparent and most of them have english difficulties that make them unable to chat with you or shy to do so... unlike an australian doing something silly you can talk easily with...
I guess some local feel "invaded" Places like Perth have grown like crazy with people coming in from overseas that come and add to the already crowded spots so people just see the late arrivals as being the problem...
It's not racism, perhaps ignorance?
I know I made it to the right place when the complaints over the immigrants concerns that they integrate to the local activities and take up space there instead of trafficking, organised crime and religious fundamentalists that euro struggles with...
I don't understand how anyone can be insulted by the term "euro" after all that just means that my granddad wasn't a deported criminal that concurred in the genocide on the Australian natives.
But it's kind of strange that the complaints are that loud this year, WA getting so expensive that most seasoners opted for SA this year instead, so I recon that it's fewer euros but that a limited number of them(us? I've lived here for over 2 years now) misbehave and cause the frustration. And I'm kind of surprised that it haven't resolved to violence yet. After all, someone living in a van is pretty vulnerable..