Why do folks attach their kite-leash to the chicken-loop....
if they never ride unhooked ?
I don't get it ?
I'd really like to put one end of my 'death leash' on a concrete pad and the other end on Slave. Slight nudge off the end of a pier. There! Everybody is heaps happier. 
true suicide leash is attached to chicken loop then around your neck,unhook and go for true kiteloop with short lines
After reading about the KS 2008 antics I need a 3rd clip to attach Matty to Slave before nudging off the pier! 
How to make an entrance eh Matty? 
Slave why are you SO OBSESSED with how other people ride? Peeps wear safety leashes or 'death leashes' if you prefer. The pros n cons could go on all day. GET OVA IT!
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Yes, but somehow that seems to pop out every now and again. Thats why i put my leash on my loop, so if i ever pull the ol' quick release it releases both. Not that I have done it yet.
What i think is worse is that little hook for connecting your leash to so when you pull the quick release it realeases to your leash. Thats when you get pulled backwards and can't reach the clip to undo.
Actually, good question. If you never unhook and use a donkey d1ck, then just leash to the flagging line. No need to ride suicide.
Mattyjee, why no leash? trying to emulate Slave? Even if you like a bit of donkey's d1ck in you chicken loop shouldn't you wear a leash?
slave i ride suicide and hardly unhook. but i dont have a donkey dick it kept braking so i took it off. is that fair enough or should i watch my kite turn upside down with the bar too far too reach and swim back to sure with tangled lines or happily keep kiting due to suicide set up.
and i dont want a fail safe donkey dick incase of a real bad stack. at least when i stack it hard my chicken loop comes out and it gives me a sec or too to gather my thoughts and pull the bar in without getting teabagged or dragged uneder water.
From a safety stand point I would of course prefer to connect my leash to the flagging line and not the chicken loop, but on my first kite the ‘flagging ring’ was on a trailing edge line so it was positioned at end of the bar, and after crashing, the safety leash would regularly end up twisted around the chicken loop / centre lines etc. and it seemed to me that being in this situation could possibly lead to disaster? So then I’m in the water trying to figure out how to untwist myself while keeping control of the kite, or disconnect the leash from the flagging ring, untwist it from the chicken loop/centre lines, and then reconnect it to the flagging ring. 
(Either situation being quite difficult for a noob) Once I had some 'decent' control of the kite, I then switched to connecting the leash to the chicken loop, to avoid the ‘twists’.
I’m using an IDS bar most of the time now, so no more dramas on that front, which is just fine with me. 
Q. What do you connect your death-leash to ?
A. below the bar trim/depower line....
Is that acceptable in the eyes of the kiting gods The ad in the mag say that will give me 90% depower for SLE kites bargain.
I always thought you where going on about leggy/leash in the past, in that regard I wear a 6fter only in certain conditions.
The ad in the mag say that will give me 90% depower for SLE kites bargain.
The ad in the mag say that will give me 90% depower for SLE kites bargain.
I don't unhook very often but I like to attempt back and front roll and end up with the leash all crossed up if connected to the flagging line.
If I stack it hard and let go off the bar it doesn't flag out 10 meters away and create a big mess of knotted lines so it is just easier to ride suicide and have the kite waiting for me up in the air ready to go again.
You wouldn't know the feeling waveslave,you are too tough for a suicide leash
Whatever you connect your leash to....please test it, and preferably at a safe location. Run away kites are dangerous to others.
Just from experience you hardly ever just brake one line, and if it was going to go into a deathlooping sequence that 1 line left on one side would most likely break if it was windy enough to really drag you. Not to mention I have seen flagging safetys fail and if it was honking enough to drag you through the car park sometimes in these winds flagging can send the kite into a psuedodeathloop circles and drag you more than you would think. For me the safest set up is 5th line.
Do folks still connect their death-leashes to a centreline flagging ring ?
The Industry still hasn't designed a swivel that works...
Centrelines cross-up and flagging becomes a log-jam.
The whole kite-leash concept is a mess.
Hi Guys,
I can't believe it but I actually agree with Spacey. A 5th line or mini fifth like on the Core or new Airush kites works best.
Three out of the four brands we sell all have below the bar flagging safety systems which allow multiple rotations without tangling the leash.
Airush and Core both use mini 5th line safety system dropping kit onto leading edge into the wind. Excellent!
North have the 5th line safety system which achieves the same but uses the 5th line. Excellent!
Ozone has a below the bar safety system. The system is free spinning and allows front lines to untangle but you must unclip the leash from flagging connection to achieve this. Good, but not as good as others in practical terms.
Cheers,
KH
