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how many people are riding waves switch

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Created by bennie > 9 months ago, 6 Jan 2013
bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
6 Jan 2013 10:56PM
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I am curious how many kiters ride waves switch stance in order to ride the wave frontside down wind?

The reason I ask is that the majority of kiters I see at local breaks and in vids seem to be riding waves frontside. I am a natural stance so in our summer seebreezes I have to hit the majority of waves backside, which I find much harder(and less fun) than frontside. But I am terrible at surfing switch. Is it just an illusion or should I start practicing surfing waves switch?

moon waxing
WA, 313 posts
6 Jan 2013 8:58PM
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Switch but working on becoming goofy. Being regular in WA sucks

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Newbies-Tips-Tricks/How-to-ride-goofy-foot-for-those-that-r-natural/

Radman
WA, 629 posts
6 Jan 2013 8:59PM
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bennie said...

I am curious how many kiters ride waves switch stance in order to ride the wave frontside down wind?

The reason I ask is that the majority of kiters I see at local breaks and in vids seem to be riding waves frontside. I am a natural stance so in our summer seebreezes I have to hit the majority of waves backside, which I find much harder(and less fun) than frontside. But I am terrible at surfing switch. Is it just an illusion or should I start practicing surfing waves switch?


Depends if you want to look like a kook riding switch for a year or carry on toe side like a pro

sir ROWDY
WA, 5378 posts
7 Jan 2013 10:12AM
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Sounds like you know the answer.

prea
QLD, 184 posts
7 Jan 2013 12:22PM
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bennie said...

I am curious how many kiters ride waves switch stance in order to ride the wave frontside down wind?

The reason I ask is that the majority of kiters I see at local breaks and in vids seem to be riding waves frontside. I am a natural stance so in our summer seebreezes I have to hit the majority of waves backside, which I find much harder(and less fun) than frontside. But I am terrible at surfing switch. Is it just an illusion or should I start practicing surfing waves switch?




practice in the mirror first

laurie
QLD, 3902 posts
7 Jan 2013 12:46PM
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Radman said...
bennie said...

I am curious how many kiters ride waves switch stance in order to ride the wave frontside down wind?

The reason I ask is that the majority of kiters I see at local breaks and in vids seem to be riding waves frontside. I am a natural stance so in our summer seebreezes I have to hit the majority of waves backside, which I find much harder(and less fun) than frontside. But I am terrible at surfing switch. Is it just an illusion or should I start practicing surfing waves switch?


Depends if you want to look like a kook riding switch for a year or carry on toe side like a pro


Spot on. This season I've been doing the kook thing (some would say I do it every season) ... but goal is to hit the wave riding on my awkward side. Only really started to feel confortable last couple of sessions - still a long way to go, but it's a blast & worth the effort.

Try this trick: Head out, hit the lip backside, then switch feet during the bottom turn, and then hit the lip frontside.


bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
7 Jan 2013 1:57PM
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^^^^ yeah I was thinking that too. smashing the lip backside on the way out is so much fun, so If I can then combine this with riding switch its almost the perfect combo. Only problem is I think It will take a LOT of practice to make carving switch feel natural.

I guess the ultimate would be to be able to approach a wave in any stance and feel natural

spot1
WA, 1588 posts
7 Jan 2013 11:03AM
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I love riding back side stick with it and you will to
Just waiting for a nwest winds

bene313
WA, 1347 posts
7 Jan 2013 11:12AM
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Get dialed in to those frontside upwind punts!!

If you really want to go goofy, practice on a skateboard. The key is getting the shift in body weight to the left foot - skateboard helps a lot with this.

Having said that, I still maintain a natural stance. 20 years of skating and surfing natural is hard to reverse!

moons
WA, 349 posts
7 Jan 2013 11:35AM
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ezza
NSW, 561 posts
7 Jan 2013 9:44PM
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I learnt to kite before i surfed, although was on a surfboard from the start, and because the guy who taught me was natural I became natural too. Last year found out i much prefer to skate goofy. So i'm confused

We went to Fiji this year and Cloudbreak is the by far the biggest and heaviest wave I have ever kited, or at least it was that week (Kelly Slater & Reef Macintosh were on Tavarua for the swell... omg, hero worship... best moment of my surfing experience so far was watching them tear it up from the channel) and for two days i struggled trying to hold my nerve tacking upwind switch until i was in position, then jump around and ride down the line on my backhand. Then one wave i left it too late and had to go for it switch. and it felt gooood. Now my mission for the next year is to go both ways!

bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
8 Jan 2013 11:43AM
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moons said...





its the same for the east coast

default
WA, 1255 posts
8 Jan 2013 9:55AM
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For a short time, particularly in my early days kiting, I used to think "I wish I was goofy" but not anymore.. as a surfer I always liked watching good backside surfers.. now I just take this thought into kiting and once your kite handing/positioning gets spot on, it doesn't matter so much - just work on your backside riding and kite skills (getting your kite depowered and drifting is the key).. and like bene said its easier to punt some nice airs going right, slightly upwind :)

When I watch local goofy kiters, all they seem to do is cutback after cutback (nothing wrong with cutties!) but theres nothing like variation in my opinion and the guys I see with more variation in their game tend to be regular footers.

It seems a lot of kiters think you cant rip kiting waves as a regular on the SWer.. I say BS to that

COL
NSW, 554 posts
8 Jan 2013 12:55PM
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The ex sailboarders all learnt to ride goofy out of necessity. I do wish I didn't let it slide when kiting came along, but at the time who would have thought kiting waves would have ended up so much like surfing. You got me keen to give it a go though.
Col

NowindSurfer
WA, 163 posts
21 Jan 2013 12:20AM
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www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Wave-sailing/Goofy-footed-Upwind-wave-sailing-problem/

Dude i surfed backdside lefts for years then jumped n a windsurfer and couldn't ride down the line back????? So my stance is normal rather go rhander backside downwind any-day. **** has got us baffled ???? your not the only one with this problem. I was under the impression that it was a bad habbit picked up long ago and requires versatility

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
21 Jan 2013 11:07AM
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bennie said...
moons said...





its the same for the east coast


Huh.....?????? its the opposite

Danmurphys
WA, 231 posts
21 Jan 2013 8:47AM
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My mates suggested I ride switch when I started doing downwinders. Now this side feels way better than natural and I'm stoked I did.

Now just to sacrifice a season of surfing to learn to paddle surf goofy. Not as easy.

Poida
WA, 1922 posts
21 Jan 2013 9:38AM
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if you grown up in WA as a natural footer then backhand is no probs

bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
21 Jan 2013 2:56PM
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harry potter said...
bennie said...
moons said...





its the same for the east coast


Huh.....?????? its the opposite


yeah our seabreezes are from the ne, opposite to the sw that the west coast gets.

On the plus side east coast southerlies are great for natural footers

bennie
ACT, 1258 posts
21 Jan 2013 3:02PM
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I've had a few sessions since I started this thread. I've been trying to get the hang of riding waves switch, but it just feels so awkward, maybe I'm not ambidextrous, anyway I think I am going to stick with my natural stance(regular) and get a dynabar to help with body postion with my backside riding.

Plummet
4862 posts
21 Jan 2013 12:46PM
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i'm goofy..... (waits for onslaught)

Jared888
WA, 389 posts
21 Jan 2013 1:44PM
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yep i'm a goof ball

But I luv going back side even on a SW and boosting like an ollie of the lip, feels so natural and the wind is perfect dirrection to keep the board on my feet without too much thinking

Being goofie, thinkings not a strong point

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
21 Jan 2013 2:21PM
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Get a twin tip and enjoy both.. on the same wave even.

Jared888
WA, 389 posts
21 Jan 2013 2:52PM
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getfunky said...
Get a twin tip and enjoy both.. on the same wave even.


no drive on a Twinny, and they turn into bars of soap when dropping into anything bigger than 2 feet

DutchRooster
NSW, 325 posts
21 Jan 2013 10:05PM
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I can't tell the difference between goofy or natural in my own riding, it's almost confusing to me to hear you guys talk about it! I don't have a preference of a front foot, be it snowboarding, surfing, kiting or windsurfing.

Same thing riding toeside, either way, feels the same to me. I'm equally sh-t either side.

Skateboarding, however, I can only really do left foot forward (and poorly!). Probably because I never had to switch.

Puetz
NT, 2186 posts
21 Jan 2013 9:00PM
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DutchRooster said...
I can't tell the difference between goofy or natural in my own riding, it's almost confusing to me to hear you guys talk about it! I don't have a preference of a front foot, be it snowboarding, surfing, kiting or windsurfing.

Same thing riding toeside, either way, feels the same to me. I'm equally sh-t either side.

Skateboarding, however, I can only really do left foot forward (and poorly!). Probably because I never had to switch.


+1,,, me too

Jono77
WA, 356 posts
21 Jan 2013 8:06PM
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Yep, I ride "switch" however, coming from windsurfing, it is just the way you do it!! I surf natural and when I started riding waves on a twin tip 7 years ago, I used to flick it around to ride natural in Perth. I got going ok but then went to jibing and riding right foot forward as I was used to from windsurfing and it is all good.

However, I read this thread this morning so this arvo I was giving backside bottom turns anotger go. All good. Good to do both.

Jared888
WA, 389 posts
22 Jan 2013 11:21AM
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DutchRooster said...
I can't tell the difference between goofy or natural in my own riding, it's almost confusing to me to hear you guys talk about it! I don't have a preference of a front foot, be it snowboarding, surfing, kiting or windsurfing.

Same thing riding toeside, either way, feels the same to me. I'm equally sh-t either side.

Skateboarding, however, I can only really do left foot forward (and poorly!). Probably because I never had to switch.


find it hard to beleive that while surfing you can drop into waves goof and natural....i dont know anyone that can do that.

Maybe if your surfing at a kidie location on a longboard. perhaps

Seriously if you can thats cool ...I get smashed taking off back hand at some local breaks and wish I could drop in front side sometimes

andrewm
WA, 243 posts
22 Jan 2013 1:07PM
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I have been trying to ride goofy for the last 2 seasons. when I first started I could barely ride in a straight line. Now in good conditions I can manage pretty well. soon as I get bit powered with some choppy and or hollow waves and I fall apart. tight bottom turns and keeping power in the kite is my main issue.

frontside I find far more rewarding in smaller surf and lighter winds than riding backside. I typically tend to do 50/50 during sessions to keep it interesting. doubt I will ever be amazing at it but its a nice change.

SugarQube
WA, 490 posts
22 Jan 2013 4:37PM
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spot1 said...
I love riding back side stick with it and you will to
Just waiting for a nwest winds



I thought as a an ex poley you would be used to frontside, as back side isnt possible???

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
22 Jan 2013 4:57PM
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Jared888 said...
getfunky said...
Get a twin tip and enjoy both.. on the same wave even.


no drive on a Twinny, and they turn into bars of soap when dropping into anything bigger than 2 feet


Your'e not doing it right.

Yeh I know your points are (partly)valid in the big stuff, but day to day thrashing in soup - can't beat a twinny IMO and it's sooo much fun changing stance and smacking differant sides within one section or wave to wave.

Drive is possible on a bigger TT I reckon. Still some kite input needed I grant you but drive all the same.

Whatever floats ya boat tho. Enjoy.



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