OK My two cents
For the f^&^%ing life of me i can't understand why some kiters insist on kiting in Lano main break or Dutchies break(if you can call it a break) when there is twenty plus windsurfers there
Why Do they want a fight
Now i can sail south passage , mainbreak and dutchies with kites no problem when it's not crowded and don't mind them being there.But if i went to the beach and saw twenty kites on the water i would be looking for another place to sail.
It's called respect.
Why Do they want a fight Why Do they want a fight
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What a load of baloney.... he did it! no HE did it! NOOOO HE DID IT! hahahaahah.
The sport isn't the problem, its the individual. Its like saying all 4x4 drivers are dangerous but people who drive 2 wheel drive cars are angels.
I have both kited and windsurfed and while i agree a kiter needs more space, most kiters also GIVE more space.
Loads of windsurfers assume that 5m is plenty of room when passing another windsurfer so wrongly assume the same for the kiter.
For example:
Was helping my brothers wife to get going on her kite at safety bay well up the sandbar away from everyone and had some moron doing his hero speed run 5m downwind of us. You may have seen him, he wears a red rash vest that says LIVE SLOW and he waves alot, but doesn't use all his fingers.
Had another run in with the same bloke later in the day. Has no idea about right of way and when i mentioned it to him he shouts " swear swear swear i am a windsurfer doing speed runs, unlike you stupid swear swear kiters, get the swear swear out of my way" wow what a champ.
Then again I have some very good mates who windsurf and are complete champions. I figure we need to join the two sports somehow, clubs, bbqs etc have afew beers and some laughs to ease the tension and split the spots(if possible) where it makes the most sense.... or i could be dreaming.
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Why Do they want a fight[}:)]
Why Do they want a fight[}:)][}:)] from my original post.[}:)]
why dont we all try this looks like fun
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34787
Ah Stribo, Stribo, Stribo,
you of all people should have thicker skin. From:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33213&whichpage=2
which incidentally is a thread about other windsurfers getting in the way. (Note the very respectful comment about driving someone up onto dry reef).
"stribo
WA
Australia
548 Posts
Posted 17/12/2007, 10:18 am
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eyeMhardcore probably can't uphaul yet he doesn't even have the balls to have a real profile ...
If you are hardcore update your profile with some real info, pics etc....
Then when i see you on the water i can drive you up onto dry reef
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Haircut
QLD
Australia
1680 Posts
Posted 17/12/2007, 11:12 am
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stribo, how long you been using the net? ey'm'hardcore is just taking the piss, and you're taking the bait
i'm stickin to boat wakes, theres never anyone else on them
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stribo
WA
Australia
548 Posts
Posted 17/12/2007, 11:27 am
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Just entertaining myself
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Haircut
QLD
Australia
1680 Posts
Posted 17/12/2007, 11:29 am
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ahh, the ole taking the piss out of the piss taker trick ey!!?
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stribo
WA
Australia
548 Posts
Posted 17/12/2007, 11:39 am
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You should know me by now haircut" (My emphasis)
(Yes, it is Friday afternoon, at work, and looking at doing anything but)
That was all tongue in cheek response tp eyemhardcores silly post trevor.
All i,m saying is why kite where there is 20 plus windsurfers It can't be fun and kiters must know by now that it really pisses most windsurfers off..Just like a cupla of windsurfers sailing amongst 20 plus kiters would piss the kiters off
Do you get what i,m saying
I woudn't sail in a place that was going to piss other water users off (any water user).
RESPECT
And all I am saying sir, is that if it is crowded, it is crowded, and respect should be shown by all, no matter what you sail/fly.
THE END
It can't be fun and kiters must know by now that it really pisses most windsurfers off..Just like a cupla of windsurfers sailing amongst 20 plus kiters would piss the kiters off
Sorry trevor just one more point and i'm not trying to wind you up but...
As a windsurfer if i were to go windsurfing in the same area as 20 kite-boarders i am putting myself at risk.
If a kite-boarder goes kiteing in an area where there are 20 windsurfers they put everyone at risk.
In both scenarios being the minority is not fun and it pisses everyone off. So whats the point
Now i am talking more people than an area can handle.I'm not saying that i hate kites and they should be off the water, i enjoy seeing my kiteing friends in the break when theres plenty of room.
It can't be fun and kiters must know by now that it really pisses most windsurfers off..Just like a cupla of windsurfers sailing amongst 20 plus kiters would piss the kiters off Mast high plus ahhhh the days i relish
user, if your not concerned about windsurfers **** off back to the gays on trays[kitesurfing] forum.
A learner or out of control kiter is 10 times more dangerous than a windsurfer in the same situation. I 100% agree with you there, but we can't just assume the kiter "will" get out of control and "most" kiters will wait until downwind of them is safe beforehand.
If the spot is very congested then as a kiter i wouldn't venture out, then again i wouldn't windsurf there either, but have seen lots of very competent kiters at woodies kite in a massively congested area and be 99% safe. They are usually close enough to high five each other, yeah!
Seen three windsurfers track the entire length of safety bay to penguin island where my brother and i were kiting alone(trying new tricks) and pass within a couple of metres of us. They had km's on either side???
We are all out there because we enjoying using the wind to skip across the water, some windsurfing speed and some kiters dingly dangling. Can't see why people who share the same passions can't share a bit of space. then again if theres 5 people at my local beach its crowded.
I dunno how I missed this thread so far 
Anyway, I was going to post two weeks ago about an incident at Dutchies but the day after that I had to drive to Esperance then the anger wore off etc etc....... but it is relevant to this thread.
I was sailing at Dutchies for a couple hours, SW of the groyne at the "break" and then as is my custom, on my last run I ran waaaay downwind so as to come back in north of the groyne at the "keyhole". Most Dutchies people will know where I mean: yes you can come in at a few places but only one is obviously rock free and safe.
There was a kiter going in an out and gybing (is that the word?) right in the keyhole over an over again. As I came in to the beach he had bvggered a gybe, or was adjusting something or whatever and was standing in the keyhole about 5m off the beach. I had to line him up and miss him by about 5m so I could get in. Nowhere near his lines, as he had the kite flying above his head.
Just as I stop in knee deep water, 5m from him, he abuses me (as if to say that I had all the room in the world and I could land anywhere)
My point?? (1) Like I have said here before kiters who used to windsurf or surf are tops. Those who use their brains, (unlike the above dickhead), will realise whilst they can travel in 10cm deep water, windsurfers cannot and we may sometimes have to maintain our line.
(2) I watched the above fella a while as I derigged (and fumed)..... he was not using the waves and would have been just as happy 200m north or south of where we were windsurfing. Why not go there? There was a heap of guys kiting 300m north of us. I'm happy to share it when they are tearing up waves and respecting right of way. But when the beginner to intermediates are doing the same ****e they do on the river and they do it right in the wave spots and then to add fuel to the fire they abuse me for landing where I did.... WTF????
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here, and probably get destroyed, but it should be fun.
Picture the scene. Lancelin main break, 10:30am. Seabreeze starting to build, it's only 15 knots. 5 kiting mates go out and start to have fun. Wind continues to build. 10 windsurfers sit on the shore and go - "it's OK, they were there first, I'll just sit here and watch".
I can't see it happening. They would be straight out into it, and probably whingeing about kiters being in their spot.
Anywhere with a seabreeze, this is a typical pattern. It builds. Ergo kiters are out on the water first, and by this logic should be able to have any spot they choose.
If you are going to use the argument that kiters shouldn't go out where there are windsurfers, you should also apply it in reverse.
I am not claiming that this is the case, and that kiters should have first dibs. I'm just ripping that particular argument to shreds
Just for the record, I've never bothered to kite lano main break. Nor Margarets. I figure staying out of the way of the windsurfers is the best option.
how about this option. If you want to sail in crowded conditions, sail in crowded conditions. if you like a bit more space, utilise the other several thousand kilometres of coast line.????
could it be possible that most people sail/surf/kite these popular places because they feel safer sailing in company. Surely there are plenty of remote places equally good if not better that require just a bit more traveling time.(for those who feel crowded) ie scenario. ""geez it's too crowded here at bla bla bla's, lets head off to scoobie doos."
