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Who was KA-1?

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Created by Wet Willy > 9 months ago, 14 Oct 2008
AUS4
NSW, 1296 posts
16 Oct 2008 10:10PM
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For sure, most windsurfing sails are boring and almost invisible. There are some noticeable exceptions. Severne sails look nice, how the colour fades out over the sail. North sails are also quite visible. When monofilm sails came out in the early to mid nineties, windsurfing became an invisible sport.






Arrows did the fade thing 6 years ago...but it didnt come of like Severne.

da vecta
QLD, 2515 posts
16 Oct 2008 10:10PM
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It would be good to see Tom Leudecke back (he could assume KA-1 again).

Wood Duck
157 posts
17 Oct 2008 6:10AM
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KA prefix does not exist ( changed 15 years ago ) anymore, it has been replaced by AUS, same with KZ = NZL, KC = CAN, US = USA, K = GBR, KH = HKG etc etc.

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
17 Oct 2008 11:23PM
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yeah, such a great change.

last year in maui, and a friend i was with exclaimed

"that bald austrian guy nearly ran me over!"

"thats just phil mcgain and he always does that!"

KA30 and proud of it, ian.


Wood Duck
157 posts
19 Oct 2008 8:54PM
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greenleader said...

yeah, such a great change.

last year in maui, and a friend i was with exclaimed

"that bald austrian guy nearly ran me over!"

"thats just phil mcgain and he always does that!"

KA30 and proud of it, ian.





Austria = AUT.
We all had the problem when we had KA. People would say, what is KA.

ka43
NSW, 3105 posts
20 Oct 2008 12:44PM
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Just remembered.
We are all wrong. KA-1 was actually Mark Paul's number. He let Tom use it in the PBA/PWA events.
Tom's real number was KA-11. Dave Dorn took KA-111 so that left KA-1111 for a certain young Mr Polakow.

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
20 Oct 2008 12:47PM
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ka43 said...

Just remembered.
We are all wrong. KA-1 was actually Mark Paul's number. He let Tom use it in the PBA/PWA events.
Tom's real number was KA-11. Dave Dorn took KA-111 so that left KA-1111 for a certain young Mr Polakow.


So who's the guy in the photo?? Mark or Tom????? It might be a PWA race, seeing as Robbie's in it.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
20 Oct 2008 10:16AM
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That'd be Tom for sure - at the Gorge Pro-Am in Hood River, Oregon.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:18PM
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PWA did not exist back then. This photo is probably from the PBA days.

As Ka43 explained, the sailor is Tom Leudecke. Mark Paul was the main man at Bombora. If he was sailing you would see big kangaroos on the sail.

holgs
WA, 303 posts
20 Oct 2008 10:36AM
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Mobydisc said...

PWA did not exist back then. This photo is probably from the PBA days.



Neither did the PBA. It was the WBA back then. (World Boardsailing Association)

The Prydes are '86 Warp Speed prototypes (I used ti have a Warp Speed) while the Gaastras look more like the '85 models than the '86 Speedfoils.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:47PM
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There ya go!

Where do you think the shot was taken? Possibly Lake Garda?

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:43PM
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Mobydisc said...

There ya go!

Where do you think the shot was taken? Possibly Lake Garda?


The Gorge.

ka43
NSW, 3105 posts
20 Oct 2008 3:25PM
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Chris is right, its the Gorge and it's Tom L.
And definitely Warp Speed's, the ducks guts back then

Chris 249
NSW, 3589 posts
20 Oct 2008 11:04PM
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Actually, if it was '85/'86 it was the WSMA - Wind Surfing Manufacturer's Association - that ran the World Cup. I may still have a rule book somewhere.

Those manufacturers who were members in the WSMA and paid into the "pool" got to run a team. There were Hi Fly, Browning, Mistral, F2, Tiga, Bic, North, Pryde, Gaastra, etc. Each got about 8 spots in each WC event.

The only other way to get into the World Cup was via the short-lived "Amateur Funboard World Championship" which featured 3 guys and 1 woman from each nation racing Raceboards and Slalom. The top 10 guys got an entry into the World Cup.

'85 was the peak year in board sales - 25,000 boards in the UK and Oz each, for example.


greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
20 Oct 2008 10:28PM
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jeezus chris! you are the windsurfing supernerd! the pencilnecked geek of obscure race facts!!!!! onya mate my alzheimers made me forget half of that important stuff.

Hausey
NSW, 325 posts
21 Oct 2008 12:28AM
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Both highly intelligent and gifted chaps....though

The real KA1 - Mark Paul was only fast on a face of a wave, or talking about it.

Mark tried to design boards at Bombora that would plane on a smaller and smaller area - such as the Astrotoy though they didn't work ....

Thomas Luedecrous was a racer and could also design a board to go fast.... until.... he too started designing Bombora's?

Chris 249
NSW, 3589 posts
22 Oct 2008 11:19PM
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greenleader said...

jeezus chris! you are the windsurfing supernerd! the pencilnecked geek of obscure race facts!!!!! onya mate my alzheimers made me forget half of that important stuff.


I am the Rainman of early '80s windsurfing!

Don't even get me started on '80s offshore racing yachts or dinghy design 1880-2008!

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
23 Oct 2008 12:25AM
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Chris 249 said...

greenleader said...

jeezus chris! you are the windsurfing supernerd! the pencilnecked geek of obscure race facts!!!!! onya mate my alzheimers made me forget half of that important stuff.


I am the Rainman of early '80s windsurfing!

Don't even get me started on '80s offshore racing yachts or dinghy design 1880-2008!


So, tell us your thoughts on early 80's waveboards versus the modern ones??

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
22 Oct 2008 11:32PM
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shoot me your address willy, and i'll send you a few to test!!!!!

they were really good, honest!

well...good back then.

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
23 Oct 2008 12:44AM
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greenleader said...

shoot me your address willy, and i'll send you a few to test!!!!!

they were really good, honest!

well...good back then.


Serious???

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
23 Oct 2008 12:19AM
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i'll wrap them in cardboard, you pay the freight!

why didn't you ask me for a few before you left the goldy?

trust me, i have many fond memories of special boards that i have used over the decades and everytime that i have had a chance to "revisit" one of them down the track, my thoughts have always been......"did i actually ride this thing!"

westhammer
WA, 507 posts
22 Oct 2008 10:42PM
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Dont k nock the glass

Hausey
NSW, 325 posts
23 Oct 2008 11:06PM
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greenleader said...
[ my thoughts have always been......"did i actually ride this thing!"


The real KA-1 had a collection of dinosaurs under his house at Long Reef that would have had you all far more perplexed about actually riding them...... an array of beasts so bad that you'd be left breathless......and would draw the crowds in any windsurfing shop / museum.......they would have taken a legend to tame........and some serious creative thinking or drugs to design ......

thank god for evolution ........ unless you're a creationalist!

Donk
NSW, 390 posts
23 Oct 2008 11:21PM
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Hausey said...

greenleader said...
[ my thoughts have always been......"did i actually ride this thing!"


The real KA-1 had a collection of dinosaurs under his house at Long Reef that would have had you all far more perplexed about actually riding them...... an array of beasts so bad that you'd be left breathless......and would draw the crowds in any windsurfing shop / museum.......they would have taken a legend to tame........and some serious creative thinking or drugs to design ......

thank god for evolution ........ unless you're a creationalist!



It was like a history lesson when I went to his place.

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
24 Oct 2008 8:45PM
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Cool...maybe I could get a quirky waveboard off you next year when my uncle from the Goldie comes to visit me??

I love the old windsurf books with the bizarro assymetric shapes and football fins and so on...they don't make 'em like they useta!

bobdaboarder
NSW, 185 posts
24 Oct 2008 9:34PM
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willthe real KA-1, please stand up, please stand up

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
24 Oct 2008 9:45PM
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Wet Willy said...

Cool...maybe I could get a quirky waveboard off you next year when my uncle from the Goldie comes to visit me??

I love the old windsurf books with the bizarro assymetric shapes and football fins and so on...they don't make 'em like they useta!

Yep, nostalgia is not what it used to be...

Can-openers, those asymmetrical boards, were fun for a while in the early 80s.

Penski
NSW, 58 posts
4 Nov 2008 12:58PM
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He he he he he

You guys are cracking me up ... and the memories are bring a smile to my face.

Tom Luedecke was legend! I remember in the 80's you could actually see windsufing on the TV. I remember one time there was a racing series on Pittwater and Tom, Bruce Kendall (NZ) et al were all racing around on those weird tubes of toothpaste ... what were they called?

ANYWAY ... you mentioned AHD. I've still got the AHD Omega (circa 1989/90). This was a great board back then. Still pops up onto a plane quickly. Just wondering how a board like this compares to a current similar style board these days.

Am I potentially missing out on another new world of sailing???

Cheers,
P

Penski
NSW, 58 posts
4 Nov 2008 12:59PM
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He he he he he

You guys are cracking me up ... and the memories are bring a smile to my face.

Tom Luedecke was legend! I remember in the 80's you could actually see windsufing on the TV. I remember one time there was a racing series on Pittwater and Tom, Bruce Kendall (NZ) et al were all racing around on those weird tubes of toothpaste ... what were they called?

ANYWAY ... you mentioned AHD. I've still got the AHD Omega (circa 1989/90). This was a great board back then. Still pops up onto a plane quickly. Just wondering how a board like this compares to a current similar style board these days.

Am I potentially missing out on another new world of sailing???

Cheers,
P



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