Union Leader Kevin Bracken 911 A Conspiracy

Doc, in almost every repect I agree with your opinions.

The only two things I don't agree with, and I don't agree because 2,000 years of history suggest to me they are not true are :

there is a single, united, stable, secret global controlling elite with a single purpose and a perfectly disciplined employee base of enough people to control the whole world, but too few to ever be revealled
the world is getting worst for the average Joe citizen, and today's generation is where the tangent of the spiral into tyranny starts

And to support this I'll offer :
I agree that those in power act in evil, secretive and self serving way. But I say it is because human nature means that to be in power (or to be called 'those in power') results in individuals acting in a similar manner. They don't do this because they are all buddies and members of one organisation and read from the secret manual, they do this because that is what individual people do to get into, and when in, 'power', and people have been doing it at a broadly similar level for all of recorded history.

If you think David Hicks experience in Guantanamo Bay is an example of the way the world is descending in tyranny with the people oppressed by the governers then read the account of say the black hole of calcutta. Aruguably two places with two groups of people imprisoned for similar reasons by similar powers for similar purposes. But, I wouldn't say that the public outcry, the legal avenues open to inmates, the survival rates and the conditions demonstrate that the current authorities are manifestly more evil than those that came before. Or try the sacking of Jeruslem by the first crusaders versus the invasion of Iraq. Two things done for reasons other than those publically stated, but in no way a clear demonstration that yesterday was free and happy, today is all doom and gloom.

So, in the same way that you are giving examples of how our forefathers have not delivered us from tyranny, I am giving examples of how todays elite are not driving us into a previously unknown tyranny.

And I am concluding that the tyranny we are currently in is no different to that of all recorded history, - except that life for the average Joe Citizen has got better with every generation, despite every generation believing that life in their generation is getting worse.

Every generation has said that the world is getting worse. It has not. So why now, when people today say the world is getting worse, should I believe them ?

We just like taking the piss out of lunatic hypocrites.

Why waffle on here? It's a windsport forum.

If this **** was really true then you'd be getting off your arse and doing something about it.

You are all noise and no substance.

Your arrogance is out standing good sir.

I'm actually genuinely interested in why the Doc and PM33 think it was worth the NWO blowing up the twin towers after two planes smashed into them.

Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theories Show doing 9/11 conspiracy on TruTV NOW

He interviewed 5 of the ground zero cleanup guys and they said they saw the FBI pick up the blackboxes after other workers found them.

9/11 commission says black boxes were never found from the WTC.....even though tiny bone fragments were recovered to identified victims.....yet almost indestructable black boxes supposedly were never found....jesse was lol'ing at this

Fair enough, I guess watching planes smashing into buildings followed by scenes of people jumping to their death rather than be burned alive is rather mundane.

So...now 3 pages in, has anyone changed their original 'opinions' from what they believed at first to now, after having this informed debate.

Actually, of all the conspiracy & 'informative' threads posted (mostly by same poster), has anyone changed, or formed different opinions from what they started with? If so, then it's a good thing, yes? If not...what a waste of soooo many minutes of my life.

Just curious, that's all. Feel free to share your thoughts...I only charge per minute!

Not a jot.

Tip for ya Pete - I didn't read it.

The rest of that crap you're spewing about me is a bunch of out and out lies.

For the boobs of course.

Bit off-topic, although this is a conspiracy theory thread so that is perfectly normal, but I may have found the source of your "UFO"s over major cities last week:

Opens November 12

You really are ****ing deliriously stupid.

Seriously.
Do you make this sh!t up for a laugh - or do you really believe it
WWII was a conspiracy? WTF is that about - on second thoughts i'd rather not know

It is a fact that the people who financed the wars, (1,2 & Vietnam for starters), financed both sides.

If it is okay for governments to conscript citizens to fight you would think that it would be okay for them to conscript the cash.

The fact that that does not happen makes the whole thing decidedly dodgy.

Of course those who like a good old ceremony and the pinning on of medals may choose to think otherwise.

Me? I reckon it stinks to high heaven.

This has got to be the best and filthiest one yet PR