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Union Leader Kevin Bracken 911 A Conspiracy

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Created by petermac33 > 9 months ago, 21 Oct 2010
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Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:01AM
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petermac33 said...

the BBC has 'lost' the footage of it reporting wtc7 has collapsed 20mins before it actually did,so no i can't show you the actual BBC tape.

Lee hamilton the vice-chairman for 911 commission, i did hear on c-span say we had so much to cover in 911 commission that wtc7 was not our main focus. wtc7 was not even mentioned in report.

and yes all youtube footage of BBC reporting wtc7 collapse [prior to collapsing] is possibly edited sh1t.




So....

NO you haven't read the 9/11 Commissions report. Any content you cite is hearsay. C-span is hearsay (a cable tv wed site). How do you know what the report says or omits unless you read the thing? For someone so passionate about this I thought that's the first thing you would do...... go digging for evidence.

BBC lost the footage? Have you asked, or even looked? Or are you relying on information received from another conspiracy theorist? Don't post "BBC lost the footage" unless you've gone looking yourself.

Your arguments are baseless mate. Based on hearsay and concocted youtube videos. Hearsay from hearsay from hearsay. Chinese whispers.....

Now is the time to acknowledge your faulty arguments.

You can respond like other typical CT's... start hurling abuse.

Or you can respond like a man.



ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
28 Oct 2010 4:04PM
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cisco said...

Unfortuneately peter, no matter how concrete and credible the evidence you quote on the 911 conspiracy and NWO matters,


Somewhat subjective.

I am open to the idea that there were conspiracies around 911, I just require concrete and credible evidence.

As an aside, it's alright for Peter to be outraged by a potential conspiracy that is barely evidenced, yet no one else is allowed to be outraged that he's quoted "saving money on hookers" as an important way to save on another thread.

No mention of the conspiracies involved in getting women addicted to crack and the sex trade...

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
28 Oct 2010 8:26PM
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cisco said...

Sadly for them they have used their egos instead of their intellects to define their belief structures. To accept an idea contrary to those belief structures is akin to suicide of the ego.


Peter! He's talking about you, mate.

theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
28 Oct 2010 10:45PM
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I have a copy of the 911 commission report.

I have read some of it, well a considerable amount of it, but its mostly written in some type of hybrid legalese and crap. Thats not to say I cannot understand it, to me it seems to be written so as noone could understand it.

okay know it alls.... here is where you get your credible 'mainstream' legitimate news...

moneyteachers.org/News.html

here's the place where you get your political, business and (a)moral leaders.....
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_tavistock01.htm#Preface%20from%20john%20Quinn

and here's the today tonight mouth breathers single brain celled checksheet as to debunk any topic which might ask of you to question your formed for you beliefs or for gods sake ask you to think for yourself..... you champions of modern society call it conspiracy 'theory'....

www.isgp.eu/disinformation/Recognising_media_disinformation.htm


Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
28 Oct 2010 9:48PM
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cut

paste

cut

paste

its from the interweb so it must all be true

theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:00PM
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I know you're gonna find this hard to believe bigwankdave, being such the genius you clearly seem to be...

but there is more to the interweb than boobs....

if you care to look...

there is more evidence and eyewitness truth on youtube than there will ever be on the idiot box you hold so sacrosanct

like cisco said, let your ego go man, just let it go... set yourself free mind slave... think and be free

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:10PM
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theDoctor said...
but there is more to the interweb than boobs....


Whoah, what?

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
28 Oct 2010 10:11PM
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don't watch tv except for 2 1/2 men

Start abusing me and you conform to the mold of all other crazy CT's. You keep playing the man instead of the ball.

you have no proof except other vids posted by other CT's who watched other vids posted by more CT's

Put it all together, provide proof or shut the hell up.

same as PM33.... you rave on here but don't actually put the effort in to dig.

So easy to cut and paste.....


there's boobs on the interweb?

Carantoc
WA, 7302 posts
28 Oct 2010 8:25PM
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Lovely weather we've been having lately.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
28 Oct 2010 10:29PM
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where's the boobs?
I typed in 'boob' and it sent me straight back to seabreeze :(

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
29 Oct 2010 12:11AM
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theDoctor said...


I know you're gonna find this hard to believe bigwankdave, being such the genius you clearly seem to be...

but there is more to the interweb than boobs....

if you care to look...

there is more evidence and eyewitness truth on youtube than there will ever be on the idiot box you hold so sacrosanct

like cisco said, let your ego go man, just let it go... set yourself free mind slave... think and be free


Mate, sometimes you get too close to things and you can lose perspective, you can lose the thread. doc, you've made a whole thing of this and it's not real. there is a need sometimes to put the whole thing into reverse and then retrace your steps and see if your judgements on these things are correct.

japie
NSW, 7146 posts
29 Oct 2010 12:27AM
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Doc, argue with an idiot and ...............

and you get an ant going round and round in a box.

Anyway you are a freak, I am a freak, anyone comes to a rational conclusion is obviously a freak.

Abuse an abuser and you conform to the mold of all other crazy CT's. You keep playing the man instead of the ball.

Alan Sabrosky, former director of the us army war college, freak.

Unfortunately, Bigwavedave, or perhaps fortunately for me, guys like this freak carry an awful lot more clout and credibility than your opinion does.

Why?

They are informed, they are on the spot, they have the intelligence to work things out and the balls to address an issue.

And they do not let an opinion short circuit their rationale.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:38PM
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Who are the idiots?

Who goes on a wind sport forum trying to convince a bunch of uninterested windsurfers/kitesurfers/etc that multiple conspiracies exist to control their minds/wallets/governments/etc?

It's so funny to see you guys get so worked up because no-one wants to read/listen/pay attention to your in(s)ane ramblings.

One good thing has happened from this...... heaps of my mates have joined seabreeze to have a laugh. Gives us something to talk about at smoko.

Keep rambling and I'll keep baiting.

japie
NSW, 7146 posts
29 Oct 2010 12:54AM
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Bigwavedave said...

Who are the idiots?

Who goes on a wind sport forum trying to convince a bunch of uninterested windsurfers/kitesurfers/etc that multiple conspiracies exist to control their minds/wallets/governments/etc?

It's so funny to see you guys get so worked up because no-one wants to read/listen/pay attention to your in(s)ane ramblings.

One good thing has happened from this...... heaps of my mates have joined seabreeze to have a laugh. Gives us something to talk about at smoko.

Keep rambling and I'll keep baiting.


Batting you mean, argue with one and you get two, which is probably the sum total of your mates!

Quad erat demorandum, exeunt Japie!

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
29 Oct 2010 12:12AM
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Insulting my mates now?

True colours Japie!

Everyone who doesn't believe your claptrap bullsh1t gets abused.

Are you also a door knocker on the weekends? If people don't believe you curse them?

here's the site for you

www.igetangrywhennobodybelievesme.com

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:13PM
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i did some research from BBC's own website,initially they said in the confusion of

911 they they had 'lost' the tape of Jane Standley [reporting in New York on a live

feed to BBC London that wtc7 had collapsed 23 minutes

before it actually had]


they[the BBC] said this lost tape was due to a ''cock-up not conspiracy'' as they

put it.

the BBC have since found the tape and to this day,to this minute, to this

second are not DENYING what she said.

interestingly they are also not admitting it.

and BWD this info i got from the BBC's own website.

Mark _australia
WA, 23735 posts
28 Oct 2010 11:18PM
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Timmaaayy!!!!

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
29 Oct 2010 10:06AM
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petermac33 said...

i did some research from BBC's own website,initially they said in the confusion of

911 they they had 'lost' the tape of Jane Standley [reporting in New York on a live

feed to BBC London that wtc7 had collapsed 23 minutes

before it actually had]


they[the BBC] said this lost tape was due to a ''cock-up not conspiracy'' as they

put it.

the BBC have since found the tape and to this day,to this minute, to this

second are not DENYING what she said.

interestingly they are also not admitting it.

and BWD this info i got from the BBC's own website.




I read the same content. It's pretty poor how they justified it if you ask me.

Doesn't make it a conspiracy though any more than anything else.

I'm happy with the explanation below...

The fire crews, having lost a very large number of their members, decided that fighting an unwinnable fire in the base of a large empty building was not the best idea, announced that they were not going to fight it any more. This is true. They did make this decision. They issued a press statement saying that they were abandoning the building and that it would probably collapse. Documented. BBC reports that it "has" collapsed rather than it "has been left to" collapse. Not documented (but hardly explained in a way that will shut up conspiracy theorists)

No NWO evidence here. Sorry

poor relative
WA, 9106 posts
29 Oct 2010 7:14AM
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Who gives a fark ---- really?

saltiest1
NSW, 2575 posts
29 Oct 2010 10:17AM
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Bigwavedave said...


...... no-one wants to read/listen/pay attention to your in(s)ane ramblings.







i dunno, its quite entertaining really.

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
29 Oct 2010 10:56AM
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poor relative said...

Who gives a fark ---- really?


How can you say that?

If all the windsurfers and kitesurfers on this forum were convinced that 911 was a conspiracy then that would be enough to overthrow the new world order......

maxm
NSW, 864 posts
29 Oct 2010 11:00AM
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poor relative said...

Who gives a fark ---- really?


Agree. Even if we accept what the CT droolers are telling us, if the NWO has been working towards total world domination for hundreds of years and still haven't succeeded then they're FAILURES! Why should I worry about them? They make these guys look good:

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
29 Oct 2010 11:56AM
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I went looking for boobs and this is all I could find:



What am i doing wrong?

Someone said there was boobs on the internet!!

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
29 Oct 2010 1:08PM
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I think you were looking for a shag

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
29 Oct 2010 11:06AM
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evlPanda said...

theDoctor said...
but there is more to the interweb than boobs....


Whoah, what?



Its ok Panda, thats all its for really, the other stuff is just a distraction

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
29 Oct 2010 9:24PM
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wotzy77 said...

waxman said...

elmo said...
















can we organise this as a full size screen saver please?



come on lets get this show on the road!!!!! boobs

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
30 Oct 2010 10:08PM
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SandS said...

wotzy77 said...

waxman said...

elmo said...
















can we organise this as a full size screen saver please?



come on lets get this show on the road!!!!! boobs


yabadabadoo boobs norgs etc !!!!!!!!

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
30 Oct 2010 10:07PM
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where were those boobs on 9/11?

japie
NSW, 7146 posts
30 Oct 2010 11:12PM
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theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
31 Oct 2010 12:13AM
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Bigwavedave said...

where were those boobs on 9/11?


john howard was in the war room at the white house with dick cheney, bush was in a primary school reading a story about a goat.



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