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Created by Mask > 9 months ago, 5 Aug 2012
Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 3:21PM
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GWS spotted again last 3 dd in a row. What are the f..ing authorities waiting for? Another death? Maybe a kid?

Only a matter of time again.

bumstein
WA, 108 posts
5 Aug 2012 3:39PM
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Just curious..

What action do you think the authorities should take??

Hunt and kill them?
Tag and track them?

Maybe something outside the square like having them installed with the Jaws theme music...

Triggerhappy
WA, 174 posts
5 Aug 2012 3:46PM
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They should hunt and kill all great whites over 2.5 meters. There is no reason to have such large predators in the water. These sharks are hungry because we take all their food. Either we kill them or they eat us.

AGK
NSW, 139 posts
5 Aug 2012 7:48PM
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Its their water. Let them be. You go in the water you know it's a possibility. You drive you know you could have a crash. What right do we have to go Into their habitat and kill them? The day they grow legs and chase us up the beach then kill them. Untill then we should just understand its a risk we have to live with. Maybe we should eat less fish and not take everything out of the water. Then they won't be as hungry.

ok
NSW, 1089 posts
5 Aug 2012 7:55PM
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SHARKS ARE NOT MAN KILLERS!
horses kill more people cars kill more people illicit drugs kill more people.

ffs smoking kills more people but you want to hurt an innocent creature? if you get eaten then bad effing luck!!!!


p.s I had a gws eat a tow rope out of my hands a couple of months ago on the east coast n i dont hate them

laurie
NSW, 3902 posts
5 Aug 2012 8:02PM
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People killed by Toasters every year: 791
People killed by Dogs every year: 33
People killed by Elevators and Escalators: 30
People killed by Sharks every year: 9

Sharks kill by People every year: 70,000,000 +

blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/01/17/toasters-deadlier-than-sharks/

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
5 Aug 2012 8:13PM
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Triggerhappy said...

They should hunt and kill all great whites over 2.5 meters. There is no reason to have such large predators in the water. These sharks are hungry because we take all their food. Either we kill them or they eat us.


Think about what you have just typed. They clearly can't be that hungry as they have reached over 2.5 m, almost certainly without enjoying the taste of human flesh.

the gibbo
WA, 776 posts
5 Aug 2012 6:32PM
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laurie said...

People killed by Toasters every year: 791
People killed by Dogs every year: 33
People killed by Elevators and Escalators: 30
People killed by Sharks every year: 9

Sharks kill by People every year: 70,000,000 +

blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/01/17/toasters-deadlier-than-sharks/



balance cheers, i hate toasters

Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 7:01PM
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Why is it their water? The ocean covers the greater part of our planet. Surely we can have a small little strip adjacent to land that we can feel relatively safe in.

Also I dont buy all the BS about mistaken ID. Maybe in the past,maybe with other non GW species,, but WE are being hunted now. If we were not a food source most of these victims remains would be found.

bumstein
WA, 108 posts
5 Aug 2012 7:07PM
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laurie said...

People killed by Toasters every year: 791
People killed by Dogs every year: 33
People killed by Elevators and Escalators: 30
People killed by Sharks every year: 9

Sharks kill by People every year: 70,000,000 +

blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/01/17/toasters-deadlier-than-sharks/



Well this seems proportional to my perspective.
I'm not fond of toasters, but enjoy the warm bready products offered,
I love dogs,
elevators and escalators im rather impartial to (if I have to be honest, just no real affection for them),
Sharks?? I'm betting there's a warm heart underneath the "cool to touch" dorsal fin, but I'm not sure they yearn for my love.. Gotta admire their zeal!!
People?? Out of the billions who roam this earth there are really only a handful that I'd rate.

Let it be known good sirs, that I in no way support hunting or killing sharks...

Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 7:20PM
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People killed by Sharks every year: 9

So more than half were in WA!!!??

Shane10
QLD, 102 posts
5 Aug 2012 9:22PM
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Triggerhappy said...

They should hunt and kill all great whites over 2.5 meters. There is no reason to have such large predators in the water. These sharks are hungry because we take all their food. Either we kill them or they eat us.


Mate GWS aren't able to breed until they hit around 7-9 years old, that's maybe around 3.5-4.5m. Taking out every white over 2.5m means they're not gonna be able to breed. Then what happens? Their population declines. Then what happens? I dunno, do you? Do we end up with problems of disease running rife through other fish populations, or does nothing happen at all and the world carries on?

Point is we don't know how significant the GWS are overall to the health of marine environments. Lets do some more research first hey? Blasting away is not the answer, I don't know what is.

Underoath
QLD, 2434 posts
5 Aug 2012 9:35PM
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Mask said...

GWS spotted again last 3 dd in a row. What are the f..ing authorities waiting for? Another death? Maybe a kid?

Only a matter of time again.



^ this ****s me- people surprised sharks live in the water.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
5 Aug 2012 7:53PM
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Mask said...

Why is it their water? The ocean covers the greater part of our planet. Surely we can have a small little strip adjacent to land that we can feel relatively safe in.

Also I dont buy all the BS about mistaken ID. Maybe in the past,maybe with other non GW species,, but WE are being hunted now. If we were not a food source most of these victims remains would be found.


Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 8:46PM
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dusta said...

Mask said...

Why is it their water? The ocean covers the greater part of our planet. Surely we can have a small little strip adjacent to land that we can feel relatively safe in.

Also I dont buy all the BS about mistaken ID. Maybe in the past,maybe with other non GW species,, but WE are being hunted now. If we were not a food source most of these victims remains would be found.





What part dont yu understand? Looks pretty clear to me.

bumstein
WA, 108 posts
5 Aug 2012 8:51PM
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What part dont yu understand? Looks pretty clear to me.


still haven't said what you think the solution is... The authorities should do what exactly.? Just saying

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
5 Aug 2012 8:57PM
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Mask said...


What part dont yu understand? Looks pretty clear to me.


i understand you're a dumb **** . what else is there to understand ?

Jonopark
WA, 400 posts
5 Aug 2012 9:08PM
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I hope none of the tree hugging shark lovers here eat fish or red meat. And also last week the state government gave the all clear to cull wild pigs. I also hope you guys are out raged and protesting/taking action against this decision, and if not is hypocrit the right word? Or just stupid hippie!! (watch the red thumbs come!)

Mikedobee
NSW, 331 posts
5 Aug 2012 11:09PM
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The part with "we don't need sharks bigger than 2.5 m in the water" is so ridiculous is not funny.

How to put this clear and comprehendable: WE (humans) depend on the effing SHARKS.
WE (humans) are already harming ourselves by killing so many effing SHARKS.

Yes, it's such a tragic and painful experience to lose someone like that, but that doesn't mean we should hunt and kill them. Because they play a huge role in this already unbalanced world.

I am scared as **** when I go in the water, but that is part of the experience and I am willing to take the risk.

Just a super brief explanation of why do we need sharks...
As the apex predators of the oceans, the role of sharks is to keep other marine life in healthy balance and to regulate the oceans.
The prospect of a food chain minus its apex predators may mean the end of the line for many more species.
Sharks have widespread global distribution, are highly migratory and play a vital role in maintaining the health of ocean ecosystems.
Sharks are a critical component in an ecosystem that provides 1/3 of our world with food, produces more oxygen than all the rainforests combined, removes half of the atmosphere's manmade carbon dioxide (greenhouse gas), and controls our planet's temperature and weather.
The oceans are the most important ecosystem on the planet, and our best defense against global warming, containing life that absorbs most of the carbon dioxide (global warming gas) that we put into the atmosphere, converting it into a large percentage of the oxygen we breathe.
Sharks play a vital role at the top of the food chain by maintaining balance in the oceans. Destroying shark populations could destroy our oceans and our life support system.
We have already witnessed localized collapses of fisheries and ecosystems due to the removal of sharks, including the scallop fisheries in Chesapeake Bay, the coral reefs in Belize and the cod in New England.

bumstein
WA, 108 posts
5 Aug 2012 9:16PM
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I've taken steps to make sure visitors to my abode are safe and sound


lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
5 Aug 2012 11:23PM
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Jonopark said...

I hope none of the tree hugging shark lovers here eat fish or red meat. And also last week the state government gave the all clear to cull wild pigs. I also hope you guys are out raged and protesting/taking action against this decision, and if not is hypocrit the right word? Or just stupid hippie!! (watch the red thumbs come!)


Errr, wild pigs are an introduced species in Australia and as such should be culled. You can't justify killing sharks on this basis. Non argument.

Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 9:47PM
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dusta said...

Mask said...


What part dont yu understand? Looks pretty clear to me.


i understand you're a dumb **** . what else is there to understand ?



Brilliant response.
Well thought through. How long did that take you?.

Moron.

Beelzebub
WA, 145 posts
5 Aug 2012 10:06PM
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laurie said...

People killed by Toasters every year: 791
People killed by Dogs every year: 33
People killed by Elevators and Escalators: 30
People killed by Sharks every year: 9

Sharks kill by People every year: 70,000,000 +

blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/01/17/toasters-deadlier-than-sharks/



How many people in Gracetown, Port Kennedy, Cottesloe and Wedge have been killed by elevators, escalators or toasters? How many have been ripped limb-for-limb by blood-thirsty maruading sharks?

natemarshall
WA, 93 posts
5 Aug 2012 10:12PM
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where were the sharks sighted?

Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 10:31PM
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natemarshall said...

where were the sharks sighted?


Cott and trigg

Beelzebub
WA, 145 posts
5 Aug 2012 10:38PM
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Mikedobee said...



How to put this clear and comprehendable: WE (humans) depend on the effing SHARKS.
WE (humans) are already harming ourselves by killing so many effing SHARKS.

We have already witnessed localized collapses of fisheries and ecosystems due to the removal of sharks, including the scallop fisheries in Chesapeake Bay, the coral reefs in Belize and the cod in New England.


While you are correct that scallops can be affected by "the effing SHARKS", there is little (if any) evidence to suggest that the demise of large sharks has had a discernable adverse impact on humans . Furthermore, it is impossible for a nearly extinct species to play a critical role in the ecosystem.

Mask
WA, 293 posts
5 Aug 2012 10:40PM
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lostinlondon said...
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Errr, wild pigs are an introduced species in Australia and as such should be culled. You can't justify killing sharks on this basis. Non argument.




Err, So are poms and europeans. Should they be culled as well?

Addikt
WA, 553 posts
5 Aug 2012 11:06PM
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I heard the shark net debate was brought up again as possible solution, I see more dolphins and turtles getting caught in the nets than stopping sharks......

Surely with technology today there is a way of monitoring ocean life close to our beaches for larger objects..........?

Tagging is one way but how on earth are you going to tag all the GW's and even the ones that are tagged be sure that the devices stay in.

Burls
209 posts
5 Aug 2012 11:24PM
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Apparently about 20 years ago the GWS became a totally protected species in Aus. Is it possible we are now living with the consequences of this decision?
I don't want to see any species wiped out, but is the great white at risk of this? If not, then I'm curious why they are totally protected?

Neptune
WA, 189 posts
5 Aug 2012 11:46PM
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Triggerhappy said...

They should hunt and kill all great whites over 2.5 meters. There is no reason to have such large predators in the water. These sharks are hungry because we take all their food. Either we kill them or they eat us.


are you F*ckn kidding me? what about we shouldnt be taking their food? you must be joking.. killing them (an already endangered animal) is absolutely stupid.

deal with it, you are swimming in their waters.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
6 Aug 2012 12:27AM
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Beelzebub said...

laurie said...

People killed by Toasters every year: 791
People killed by Dogs every year: 33
People killed by Elevators and Escalators: 30
People killed by Sharks every year: 9

Sharks kill by People every year: 70,000,000 +

blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/01/17/toasters-deadlier-than-sharks/



How many people in Gracetown, Port Kennedy, Cottesloe and Wedge have been killed by elevators, escalators or toasters? How many have been ripped limb-for-limb by blood-thirsty maruading sharks?


In recent years more people have been critically injured/ripped limb-for-limb and/or killed on blood thirsty, marauding dirt bikes at Wedge/Lancelin than all shark attacks around the entire country, you'd have a greater impact on human life banning dirt bikes in and around this tiny stretch of coast than you would have if you killed every GWS in Australian waters.

Face it, kiting, surfing, diving, kayaking, whatever you poison, now has a slightly higher risk of something bad happening with more GWS around.

Why did so many many surfers undermined their own argument by going back in the water at Wedge so soon after the last attack? If there are so many sharks in the water that the risk is unacceptable why the feck did they go back in the water at Wedge so soon and before any GWS were culled? If it's back in the water at the same beach and as an act of solidarity towards the victim (it's what they would have wanted...) why is that justification no longer bandied around two or three weeks later when the risk is reduced?

I think if you can put up with the risk of going back in the water at the exact same spot as a fatal attack less than 24 hours earlier then you lose the right to whinge about the risk three weeks later.

Culling, shark nets, a better shark shield, I've no fricken idea what the solution is, neither does anyone else really, what is needed before this problem can be managed is more meaningful research and more tagging, and lots of it. Then a decent, informed decision can be made. The call to cull 'em all without any scientific basis and with what can only be considered objectively at the moment as a statistical anomaly is narrow-minded, selfish and short-sighted.

For the record, if I get taken by a shark kiting, diving or kayaking at my local; you can leave the shark alone and I don't want you back in the water at the same spot the next day as an act of solidarity, put it simply, stay the feck out of the water for a few days, there's a big shark out there!



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