That two late night shopping night Idea is a goody.
Except Id make it wednesday and thursday, I mean Friday nights for partys.
that way consumers will frequent entertainment venues that would be open any way. thus helping the competetive (underpaid) hospitality industry have a run of wensdy thursdee fridee saturdee n sundee. with mon and tues off.
problem solved, And yes the referendum has spoken.
^^^^ Gents x 2 above - how many people seriously cannot find 1hr a fortnight to shop? Maybe 5 or 10%? Rich or otherwise...
Try living in the country where you have to have frozen bread and 2 week old fruit n veg - but I won't complain as living here is partly my choice. Just as it is your choice, gf12, to want ultra fresh when you could survive on shopping once a fortnight or using IGA.
Also gf12, the best fruit n veg and massive range I've found is at Gilberts in Southlands, who are 7 days a week. I'm sure there is similar NOR also?
BTW, there are Govt controls to tackle monoploy - and that is our current law whereby the smaller operations can open late and 7 days a week. But you suggest we deregulate and then come up with some other law to protect the smaller shops??!!!
If shopping hours are deregulated, it will certainly force out some smaller players and no Govt intervention I can think of could possibly keep them in. If all shops could open whenever they want, can you tell me what Govt intervention you'd suggest to prevent the smaller grocery stores from going broke?
A mum n dad operation with one or two employees can't put on 2 extra staff to cover the extra 20hrs or so they'd need to do, just for the extra few customers they may get - everyone will just go to Coles. And once all the little ones are gone, the big 2 can charge whatever the hell they want.
Why should the 90% pay higher prices and have less choice at the end of the day, to support lifestyle choices made by the 10% ???
That is why the referendums failed.
Damn,,,,,if I could work 6 days a week and be filthy rich, I would do it for a year and retire extremely filthy rich.
The argument that small operators can't compete when shopping hours are deregulated is a total myth. Where I now live in Melbourne there are two coles and a woolies within a km of my house but there are also a number of continental grocers, a daily market, butchers, fish shops... Melbourne has had extended shopping hours for years and all these small shops are still there. Every main road leading out of the city has 10km of little shops.
I have just spent 5 years living in Mackay in north QLD and until the last 6 months the shops closed at lunch time on Saturday and that was it 'till Monday unless you needed hardware or car spares. It drove me nuts being restricted to Saturday morning for anything that wasn't in a shopping centre.
As for the family time issue, no one is forced to work in retail, especially in a big city like Perth.
^^^^spot on squid lips...
sorry,,but I chuckle at your user name...
When we were younger we had a local girl nick named squid lips.......
I'll leave the reason to your imagination.....
oohhhhh no,,,you have a dirty mind.
Than again,,it is WA,,,living back in the 80's behind the times.
DLS started there yet
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Seriously, how hard is it for the missus to work 1hr less, or for singles to shop on Sat morning every second week?
I submit that there are very few in society who simply cannot find an hour to shop for groceries each fortnight, within existing trading hours.
If you and your partner are working 6 days week,9 hours a day,,
how do you shop on Sat morning????
"Um ,,yeah boss,I want to have an hour off work every week to go shopping"
good bye job.
not every ordinary aussies have flexable hours.
I usually doIm a tradesman and do my best to work from 7am till 15knots.
But most of the rural crew here dont have that option and missing any time off work(to shop) means missing home payments or struggle for fuel or stuff for their kids.
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Bit of a fantasy land your living in if you think people working 9hrs a day,6 days a week are filthy rich.Maybe if your comparing it to your income or you are a politician.
I know many of mates that work 9hrs a day, 6days a week,as well as their parterns and they do it just to survive because they are low income earners that work in these shops.They dont wish to do these hours(who would) but have to to keep up with house payments and to support their family.
They would be happy to work 5 days a week but longer hours into the evening at time and a half, then have a 2 day weekend with the family, than to work 6 days straight with one day off to squeeze in a bit of family time.
Not everyone lives in a high income job that means working for 6 days a week makes you filthy rich, that is what well off people seem to think.
If you can work a 38hr week,your partner dosen work,paying off a house,supporting kids,
you arent the average aussie batteling family, but in the minority higher income group who are so out of touch of the majority aussie family.
And no Mark,Im not just saying this to upset you, I know you hate kiters and think they are all w@nkers, its just my 2 cents.
Think about it.... you can't influence the property market, you can't influence interest rates, but YOU CAN make a decision not to procreate and thus not bear the financial burden associated with having a child/children. 
As for trading hours, same amount of money spent over more time. Higher operating costs for businesses and cementing of the duopoly for Woolies and Coles.
Just because the shop is open doesn't mean the average persons bank balance has increased.
yawn,,yeah,your 100% right,,,yawn
everyone that works 9 hours a day,6 days a week only do it cause they choose to and love it,,yawn,,,,
That is their choice and nothing to do with surviving,,,yawn,,,nothing to do with they have to,,,yawnnnnn
You have totally convinced me they want to do that
You should be a polaitican the way you twist things and back peddel
Anyway,,time to go to the pub and get a beer.Im sure the barmaid will be happy as ,that she has done 60 hours this week,by choice, to keep a roof over her head and food for the kiddies.I cant beleive the few who do that do it by choice.
goodnight
^^^
Lot of wind for the very first time I agree with mark
....and you will find you are both saying the same thing with a slighlty different spin. I know you think that deregulation will create more jobs but my problem with that is they will be poorly paid with no time and a half or any sort of penalty rates (And if by some miracle they are; it will only put more pressure on smaller operators) Which leaves semi skilled joe with his supermarket job that has one decent perk, being able to get your shopping done before and after work negated!!![}:)] Working full time in a bar can really suck too, buy a new quiver of kites each year on that wage...good luck!
Yep by far the best solution is a second late night shopping night to ease congestion,
and all those people winning about convenience...simply have no idea how lucky they are to live in perth let alone australia...
in fact a show of hands please .. all those people who dont like somethings about perth would you please f.h,k off back to where you came from and leave it how you found it for once.
remember when there was way under a million those were the days..
one does not have to support the big boys.......... 
support should be given to the little strip shop owner 
that;s the best result for hard earned dollars............REAL FOOD, REAL
PRODUCT, REAL DIVIDEND. so get REAL.... dump the dynasty's !!
I get up bright and early every Sunday with my green enviro friendly bags.
I hop in the ute drive past wollies, stop at Coles to use the ATm then head to my local growers market in our local school
There i spend as much $$ as is needed on fresh farm grown and/or organic veggies, i also get my coffee, bread, honey, Juice, fruit, etc etc. In fact everything i need (more or less) to last until the next Sunday.
My plan would be to encourage the growth of these farmer/local grower markets around Perth as the produce is so much better quality and value plus you are dealing with the grower direct.
To achieve this i would ban any large chain store such as Woolies, Coles or IGA from opening on the weekend - and let them have longer opening hours during the week ie Weds and Thurs - Then i would pay local schools a lease fee to host these markets in their grounds.
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I get up bright and early every Sunday with my green enviro friendly bags.
I hop in the ute drive past wollies, stop at Coles to use the ATm then head to my local growers market in our local school
There i spend as much $$ as is needed on fresh farm grown and/or organic veggies, i also get my coffee, bread, honey, Juice, fruit, etc etc. In fact everything i need (more or less) to last until the next Sunday.
My plan would be to encourage the growth of these farmer/local grower markets around Perth as the produce is so much better quality and value plus you are dealing with the grower direct.
To achieve this i would ban any large chain store such as Woolies, Coles or IGA from opening on the weekend - and let them have longer opening hours during the week ie Weds and Thurs - Then i would pay local schools a lease fee to host these markets in their grounds.
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I think we need to kick Gillard out and get PoorRelo on the job.
vote 1 PoorRelo
Here is my local wandering produce provider
he wanders to our little communities on a weekly basis selling
his own grown and selected produce to many who have no access to a
common fruit and veg. He also tells tall tails aplenty , i tend not to believe
many things he says . The Common Fruit Batt........
Why if stockmarket trading is so important, do all stockmarkets only open for 8 hours a day? Why is there reduced share trading at Christmas - and for a large proportion of January?
because share traders are ok with telling their customers to go away and come back tomorrow...
If I can't but Woollies shares on a saturday than why should I expect to be able to buy vegetables?
Simply put - those in favour of extended trading are wishing to ensure that small/medium business people that run IGA etc are squeezed out of business.
They are also in favour of a complete duopoly (that will in effect act more as a monopoly),
They wish to see WA primary producers's products removed from sale or economically bullied to accept ridiculously low prices for their products of superior quality to earn a guernsey alongside produce from elsewehere! Think - WA honey some of the best in the world, usually absent from Moles and Foolies, and acres of truly sh!t quality, watered down, Capilano is trucked over from the East (also creating a much bigger carbon footprint and raising the price of the sh!t dribble). Well that makes a lot of sense. Same for milk BTW. This kills the primary producers, their employees, their superiour products (which we should be proud of) and gives us rubbish products at inflated prices. Wake up.
Longer opening times result in more wages and overheads which must be passed on to the consumer, doubly so when there will be no real competition as the Moles Foolies duopoly has demonstrated before.
Think things are exxy at 10% dearer in IGA etc now? You ain't seen anything yet -reach deep into ya pockets when Colonoscopy ignores the public's stated wishes and puts in place all of the above.
I know it's hard for many - but try to look past the little bit of tasty cheese and notice the big menacing looking steel bar with the Moles/Foolies logo hovering over your heads. Mmmmm... cheeese.
Agree that Wed and Thurs would be a good compromise and workable, as long as Colonoscopy is made to understand it is not the thin end of his heavily lobied wedge. [}:)]
EDIT: Kn tops idea on the school fruit veges markets PR. School P&F could run and use profits to benefit the schools - kinda like saus sizzles at election polls etc (the biggest earner for our local primary). Primary producers get more outlets for superior products, schools earn and also foster a community vibe. We all eat better grub for same or lesser prices.. love it!
Not sure about the other weekend trading ideas though. Think you got carried away after one too many organic all green ciggies there.
